Expansion and Contraction of Universe

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Discussion Overview

The discussion revolves around the concepts of the expansion and contraction of the universe, particularly focusing on the potential for a big crunch scenario versus the current understanding of cosmic expansion. Participants explore various theories, including the effects of dark energy, gravitational forces, and the dynamics within galaxies.

Discussion Character

  • Debate/contested
  • Conceptual clarification
  • Exploratory

Main Points Raised

  • Some participants reference the idea of a big crunch, suggesting that the universe may eventually contract after reaching a limit of expansion, likening it to an elastic band.
  • Others argue against the likelihood of a big crunch based on observational evidence, noting that the current expansion of the universe is accelerating, which aligns with the Open Universe theory.
  • There is a discussion about the forces acting on rotating objects in galaxies, with questions raised about how galaxies can expand while being gravitationally bound.
  • Some participants clarify that the expansion of the universe primarily affects the space between galaxies, while gravitationally bound structures like galaxies themselves do not expand.
  • One participant expresses confusion about the implications of galaxies moving away from each other while questioning the nature of space and expansion, suggesting a misunderstanding of how space is conceptualized in cosmology.
  • Another participant emphasizes that distances between non-gravitationally bound objects increase due to geometric expansion, which does not imply the addition of new space.
  • Questions are raised about the critical scale that differentiates between large and small scales in the context of gravitational forces versus cosmic expansion.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants exhibit disagreement regarding the nature of expansion in relation to gravitationally bound structures. While some assert that galaxies are not expanding, others question the implications of their movement relative to the expanding universe. The discussion remains unresolved on several points, particularly concerning the interplay between gravity and expansion.

Contextual Notes

Limitations include varying interpretations of gravitational effects on cosmic expansion and the definitions of space in relation to expansion. Some mathematical and conceptual assumptions remain unaddressed.

  • #31
DarioC said:
Vin'
I think you misunderstood my Y'all comment, and I understand why. I should have used the word ME instead of THIS. As in " ...before YOU OTHER GUYS jump on ME like a mountain lion..."

I just thought ME was too personal, but I guess this made it sound like I was somehow criticizing/insulting FS.

Just the opposite, I was DEFENDING his use of the word acceleration when it is used in combination with rate.

Too bad you misunderstood, it seems to be a recurring situation on the Internet where something is taken out of context.

Perhaps since the Internet is viewed world wide, outside of English speaking countries, I should be extremely careful with casual use of clever language twists.

DC

It is absolutely ok...but the thing is what I misunderstood in your reply there might be others who will misunderstood this reply, so I was just saying that please be careful...
 

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