Expectation Value of Gaussian Wave Function: Position & Momentum Zero?

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The discussion centers on the expectation values of position and momentum in Gaussian wave functions, specifically addressing why these values can be zero. It is established that the expectation values are averages over space, not time, and that a Gaussian wave function centered at the origin results in both expectation values being zero. However, it is clarified that this is a special case; the expectation values can be non-zero if the wave function is translated in momentum space. Techniques such as Fourier transforms and the introduction of complex constants can modify these expectation values.

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Why, in a Gaussian wave function the position and momentum expectation value coincide to be zero?
Does it have any physical interpretation?

I had an idea that expectation value is the average value over time on that state. But, for Gaussian it tells that it vanishes. Can you please explain.?
 
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Why, in a Gaussian wave function the position and momentum expectation value coincide to be zero?
The gaussian wavefunction does not have to have position and momentum expectation values zero.
That is only for a special case where the wavefunction is centered on the origin.

I had an idea that expectation value is the average value over time on that state.
The expectation values are not the average over time, but the average over space. $$<x>=\int_\infty\psi^\star x \psi\;dx$$... for instance.

The expectation value is just the average value - so <x>=0 just means that the particle's average position is at the origin. This is what you'd expect for, say, a simple harmonic oscillator.

While the particle spends most time near the middle, the momentum there is either positive or negative.
The average of +p and -p is zero ... so it is equally likely to be found going left-to-right as right-to-left.

Also see:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wave_packet#Gaussian_wavepackets_in_quantum_mechanics
 
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yeah, the momentum expectation value can be nonzero, you just need to put the peak of the distribution (in momentum-space) at somewhere which is non-zero. you can do this by translating the distribution along the momentum-axis. Then, when you take Fourier transform, you get a Gaussian, multiplied by a plane wave. So if you take the expectation value of momentum in the position basis, you will also get the same non-zero expectation value. Also, if you want to create a wavepacket that has a non-zero expectation for space and momentum, then (I think) you also need to multiply the wavepacket by some complex constant with modulus 1. And then after that, if you want to add more complexity, you can start thinking about bringing time into the formula.
 

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