Experience the Magic of the Wine Clip

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The discussion revolves around the Wine Clip, a product that claims to enhance the taste of wine through the use of magnetic principles. Participants explore the scientific basis of its effectiveness, the validity of its claims, and alternative views on improving wine quality.

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Main Points Raised

  • One participant expresses skepticism about the product's claims, questioning the validity of relying on a product that lacks a clear scientific explanation.
  • Another participant humorously suggests that improving wine taste could be achieved by simply purchasing better wine, critiquing the product's design.
  • A claim regarding oxygen's magnetic susceptibility is discussed, with one participant noting confusion about its applicability to liquid versus gaseous states, and later correcting themselves to specify that oxygen is paramagnetic.
  • Concerns are raised about the lack of independent testing for the Wine Clip, with a participant comparing its claims to the cost of a coffee, implying skepticism about its value.
  • A participant introduces a related concept of "magnetic homogenization," explaining how magnetic fields can influence dissolved minerals in water, suggesting a potential scientific basis for similar claims in other contexts.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants do not reach a consensus on the effectiveness of the Wine Clip, with multiple competing views expressed regarding its claims and the scientific principles involved.

Contextual Notes

Some claims about the Wine Clip's effects are based on assumptions about magnetic fields and fluid dynamics, and the discussion highlights the need for independent verification of the product's efficacy.

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Call me crazy, but I have a hard time with 'we don't know how it works, but it works great! (Buy it!)'
The Wine Clip uses principles of magnetics to improve the taste of wine as it is being poured out of the bottle...

What causes the effect has been the subject of some debate, but it is generally thought that passing a conductive fluid through a properly designed magnetic field has an effect on the polar molecules in the fluid.
http://www.thewineclip.com/cgi-bin/category.cgi?category=home
 
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If you need to improve the taste of wine as it's poured from the bottle, buy better wine. :biggrin:

It looks like a hair clip. Hmm..and doesn't fully wrap around the bottle neck, so won't even work to stop drips. :rolleyes:
 
One of its claims is:

"In contrast with most gases, oxygen is highly magnetically susceptible, and is attracted to a magnetic field."

I thought this was only true of liquid oxygen.

[ EDIT: Oh. It's paramagnetic].


As for the veracity of the product, I wouldn't put any stock in it until I saw an independent test. Their own tests and four bucks will get you a coffee at Starbuck's.
 
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FYI, I got this link from a spam sent by a vendor at work. They also make this, which, apparently does actually work:
When hard water is subjected to fluid dynamic changes (pressure, velocity, tern perature), dissolved minerals precipitate out of solution and migrate to the area of lowest fluid velocity typically, the walls (interior surfaces) of pipes and equipment restricting the fluid flow. This scale also acts as an insulator, dramatically reducing heat transfer efficiency.

However, when a conductive fluid passes through a magnetic field, an electromotive force is induced through the fluid perpendicular to the direction of fluid flow and the flux field. This electrical discharge through the fluid induces a positive polarity in the fluid. The magnetic flux field further causes polar water molecules to be aligned along the flux or magnetomotive force vector, thus affecting the kinetics of crystallization of the minerals in the water. Random covalent bonding of the nucleation points of these scale forming molecular clusters is reduced and, therefore, these minerals stay in suspension. They are prevented from growing so large so as to precipitate out of solution and form hard scale on the walls of pipes and equipment. This process is called "magnetic homogenization."
Basically, a magnet wrapped around a pipe will prevent dissolved ions from coming out of solution and precipitating onto the pipe.

http://www.enecon.com/products/eneflow_01.asp
 
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