Experiment(Determining the reaction order)

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The forum discussion focuses on an experiment conducted to determine the reaction order of potassium permanganate (KMnO4) and oxalic acid. The results indicated that varying the concentration of oxalic acid did not significantly affect the reaction rate, suggesting a zero-order reaction with respect to oxalic acid. Additionally, increasing the concentration of KMnO4 led to a decrease in the reaction rate, which is unexpected and warrants further investigation. The participants emphasize the need for clearer experimental observations and data interpretation to accurately determine the reaction order.

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Hi guys, Girls :smile:

Today we've done an experiment to determine the order of reaction of :

KMnO4 & Oxalic acid ,, I've got the following results :

EXP | KMnO4 | Oxalic Acid | Rate

Exp1: 3.3e-3 M 0.39 M 4.48e-3
Exp2: 3.3e-3 M 0.78 M 4.57e-3
Exp3: 6.6e-3 M 0.39 M 2.99e-3

I think there is something wrong with the rates because when I want to get the order of reaction of Oxalic acid I get (0.5)^m=1 ,, so m =0 and I don't think it's right because I think it has to react too,, can anyone tell me what's their order of reaction to know what did I do wrong please ,,

Thanks in advance
 
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We would need a bit more info about what your kind of experiment and obsrvations were. Preferably with figs. You quote units (M) for concentrations but not for rates. If those are Ms-1 then the reaction is over in something like a second. Did you observe a rate over a period during which the reactant concentrations didn't change very much, which would be the simplest for interpretation?

On the face of it, when you doubled the OAA you scarcely changed the reaction rate - that would be zero order. When you doubled the KMnO4 the reaction actually slowed. One could probably come up with a mechanistic conjecture, but it seems sufficiently unexpected people would want to look at the experiment and observations before trying! :smile:
 
actually , the experiment was to measure the period that permanganate become yellow with different volumes of distilled water, potassium permanganate and oxalate acid.
and we got the time then get their invert so we get the rate ,, it's simple but the problem is getting the period right ~.~
 

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