Explain the phenomenon of decrement of angular momentum

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The discussion revolves around understanding the phenomenon of the decrement of angular momentum in a cubical block moving on a horizontal rough surface, specifically from an inertial frame of reference. Participants are exploring the forces and torques acting on the block and how these relate to changes in angular momentum.

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  • Participants are attempting to analyze the forces acting on the block, including gravity, normal force, and friction, and how these contribute to the angular momentum. Questions are raised about the definition of "decrement," the choice of inertial frame, and the axis about which angular momentum is considered.

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The discussion is active, with participants providing insights into the forces and torques involved. Some have offered clarifications regarding the conditions under which angular momentum is calculated, while others are questioning the assumptions made about the inertial frame and the setup of the problem.

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There are indications of potential misunderstandings regarding the definition of angular momentum and the specific conditions under which it is calculated. Participants are also considering the implications of friction and its effect on the block's motion.

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Homework Statement
How can we explain the phenomenon of the decrement of angular momentum of a cubical block (let's say) that's moving on a horizontal rough surface, purely in the inertial frame of reference?
Relevant Equations
$$L=mvr$$
I tried to work out the net resultant postion of the normal force but could only come at a conclusion that normal force and mg, both pass through C.O.M(torques were considered about the edge of block).
 
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AyushNaman said:
Homework Statement: How can we explain the phenomenon of the decrement of angular momentum of a cubical block (let's say) that's moving on a horizontal rough surface, purely in the inertial frame of reference?
Relevant Equations: $$L=mvr$$

I tried to work out the net resultant postion of the normal force but could only come at a conclusion that normal force and mg, both pass through C.O.M(torques were considered about the edge of block).
By "decrement" do you mean "decrease"? And what inertial frame are you referring to? The frame of the surface (assuming the surface is attached to a much larger "fixed" body to make it inertial? If the block is experiencing a deceleration with respect to the surface due to friction, a reference frame attached to the block will not be inertial.

Could you maybe upload a sketch of the problem? (use "Attach files" to upload a PDF or JPEG file)
 
AyushNaman said:
Homework Statement: How can we explain the phenomenon of the decrement of angular momentum
About what axis? If the axis is at ground level, normal to the trajectory of the block, then the angular momentum of the block about the axis is, mvr, where r is the height of the mass centre. So as v decreases, mvr decreases.
I assume your question is "what torque causes this decrease?"

There are three forces on the block: gravity, the normal force and friction. Since the friction acts at ground level, it creates a torque tending to tip the block forward. That shifts the distribution of the normal force towards the front of the block. (So long as its average position stays within the footprint of the block it will not tip.) But gravity continues to act through the mass centre, so the N, mg pair produce a torque opposing the angular momentum of the block.
 
AyushNaman said:
Homework Statement: How can we explain the phenomenon of the decrement of angular momentum of a cubical block (let's say) that's moving on a horizontal rough surface, purely in the inertial frame of reference?
Relevant Equations: $$L=mvr$$

I tried to work out the net resultant postion of the normal force but could only come at a conclusion that normal force and mg, both pass through C.O.M(torques were considered about the edge of block).
The angular momentum is a vector. It's magnitude is not mvr unless the two vectors ##\vec{r} ## and ##\vec{v} ## are perpendiuclar to each other. Is this the case in your setup?
 
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