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The discussion focuses on deriving an explicit expression for all polynomials in the ideal generated by a polynomial ##q(x)## within the rational polynomial ring ##\mathbb{Q}[x]##. The ideal ##\langle q \rangle## is defined as the set of all products of ##q(x)## and any polynomial ##h(x)## in ##\mathbb{Q}[x]##. An example provided illustrates that for the polynomial ##x^6-1## in the ideal generated by ##x-1##, the explicit expression can be derived as polynomials where the sum of coefficients equals zero. The discussion seeks a general formula for the case where ##k < n## in the expression of polynomials in the ideal generated by another polynomial.

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Construct an explicit expression for all elements in an ideal of Q[x]?
Derive an explicit expression for all ##f\in\langle q\rangle\subseteq \mathbb{Q}[x]##. I think it's doable and was wondering if there is a published formula?
 
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What is the definition of ##\left<q\right>##?
 
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What is the definition of ##\left<q\right>##?
##\langle q \rangle## is the Ideal generated by the polynomial ##q(x)\in \mathbb{Q}[x]##.

$$
\langle q\rangle=\{q(x)h(x): h(x)\in \mathbb{Q}[x]\}.
$$

For example ##x^6-1\in \langle x-1\rangle##. And in this case, it's easy to derive an explicit expression for all ##a_0+a_1x+\cdots+a_n x^n\in\langle x-1\rangle## right? It's ##\{a_0+a_1 x+\cdots+a_nx^2\in \mathbb{Q}[x]:\sum a_i=0\}##. So I was wondering if there is a known formula for the general case:
$$
a_0+a_1x+\cdots+a_n x^n\in\langle b_0+b_1x+\cdots+ b_n x^k\rangle
$$
say for ##k<n## or maybe any ##k,n##. Not sure though.
 
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That formula about the sum of coefficients is a slightly neat trick but unnecessary.

The polynomials in ##<b_kx^k+...+b_0>## are the ones of the form ##b_k a_n x^{k+n}+ (b_{k-1} a_n + b_k a_{n-1}) x^{k+n-1}+...##

If you're wondering given a polynomial how you can check if it's in the right form, that's also easy. Polynomial division is a straightforward algorithm that you can perform to see if your polynomial is dividing.
 

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