What Causes Air Bubbles to Form in Pools and Lakes?

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The formation of air bubbles in pools and lakes is primarily caused by a phenomenon known as 'ventilation,' which occurs when air is pulled down from the surface. This is distinct from 'cavitation,' a pressure-induced phenomenon that affects boat propellers operating near the water's surface. The anti-ventilation plate on outboard motors, previously referred to as a 'cavitation plate,' helps mitigate the effects of ventilation. Understanding these terms is crucial for discussions about bubble-induced wear and tear in marine applications.

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When you kick around in a pool or lake, air bubbles seem to stream from your feet... But what causes this?

Is it air being pulled down from the surface, or oxygen from the water molecules, or something else entirely?
 
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schaefera said:
Is it air being pulled down from the surface
Yes.

There's one other way bubbles can occur in water - but I doubt even the best swimmer can kick fast enough to cause cavitation.
 
Apparently the right term for what is happening is 'ventilation'. It happens with boat propellers operating too near the surface.
 
sophiecentaur said:
Apparently the right term for what is happening is 'ventilation'. It happens with boat propellers operating too near the surface.

Yep. Learned that one recently while repairing my motor. The big wing on outboards just above the propellor is called an anti-ventilation plate.
 
PF certainly does widen our horizons - in the rush to be the best informed poster of the day. :wink:
 
Well that wing on outboard engines used to be called a 'cavitation plate'. I wonder if air pulled from the surface [ventilation] is now distinguished from cavitation which is a pressure induced phenomena in liquids??

Anyone have a reference that uses 'ventilation' for such bubble induced wear and tear? Wikipedia, for example, discusses what I have always known as 'cavitation' issues. I have never seen 'ventilation' terminology in marine applications. Maybe they modified terms??

I can verify that certain prop wear on larger boats, bubble induced noise on props,and even oscillation induced metal wear in water cooled cylinder liners in some diesel engnies [ like the Detroit Diesel 53 series] is called 'cavitation'. It is common practice in some older boats to double up on hull thickness right over props and sometimes inlcude sound deadening material there to combat such unwanted noise. In wet liner diesel engines, the manufacturer [DD] specificies certain additives in engine coolants and or antifreeze..nitrites, if I recall.
 
DaveC426913 said:
There's one other way bubbles can occur in water - but I doubt even the best swimmer can kick fast enough to cause cavitation.
There is another way. But I doubt the swimmer is hot enough to cause boiling :biggrin:.

@Naty1 <-> sophiecentaur and DaveC426913: I think you are talking about different effects.
 
I was waiting for that comment. I managed to restrain myself.
 

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