Exponents & Mods: What You Need to Know

  • Context: High School 
  • Thread starter Thread starter Sam Anderson
  • Start date Start date
Click For Summary

Discussion Overview

The discussion revolves around the concepts of modular arithmetic in relation to exponentiation and tetration, specifically focusing on the expression of powers and their behavior under modulo operations. Participants explore definitions and properties of these mathematical constructs.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory
  • Technical explanation
  • Mathematical reasoning

Main Points Raised

  • One participant seeks clarification on the concept of mods in exponents.
  • Another participant introduces tetration and its formal notation using both traditional exponentiation and Knuth's up arrow notation, suggesting that ^n3 represents a stack of n threes.
  • A later reply proposes a method to prove that ^n3 mod 10 equals 7 for n greater than 1, suggesting an inductive proof starting from the base case of 3^3.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants have not reached a consensus on the specifics of modular arithmetic in relation to tetration, and multiple viewpoints on the approach to proving properties remain present.

Contextual Notes

The discussion includes assumptions about the properties of modular arithmetic and tetration, but these assumptions are not explicitly defined or agreed upon by all participants.

Sam Anderson
Messages
4
Reaction score
0
Could somebody at least tell me about mods in exponents?
 
Last edited:
Mathematics news on Phys.org
Sam Anderson said:
Let 3^n denote 333... (n+1 threes in total)

Tetration already has a formalized expression.

[tex]^n3=3^{3^{...^3}}[/tex] with n 3's in the stack.

Or you can even use Knuth's up arrow notation. Exponentiation is denoted by 1 up arrow, and tetration by 2, so

[tex]^n3 = 3\uparrow\uparrow n[/tex]

So what's your question?
 
Mentallic said:
Tetration already has a formalized expression.

[tex]^n3=3^{3^{...^3}}[/tex] with n 3's in the stack.

Or you can even use Knuth's up arrow notation. Exponentiation is denoted by 1 up arrow, and tetration by 2, so

[tex]^n3 = 3\uparrow\uparrow n[/tex]

So what's your question?
Thanks for the quick reply, but I wasn't finished typing. I accidentally hit enter. Sorry.
 
Sam Anderson said:
Could somebody at least tell me about mods in exponents?

I could only guess what you're asking for, but if I were to guess, say you want to prove that [itex]^n3 \mod 10 = 7, n>1[/itex] we would do an inductive proof. I'll make it short and you can fill in the details, but essentially you start with the base case [itex]3^3 = 27[/itex] hence [itex]27 \mod 10 = 7[/itex] and we can then show by calculation that [itex]3^7 \mod 10 = 7[/itex] hence it must be true for all n.
 

Similar threads

  • · Replies 5 ·
Replies
5
Views
2K
  • · Replies 4 ·
Replies
4
Views
2K
  • · Replies 13 ·
Replies
13
Views
3K
  • · Replies 35 ·
2
Replies
35
Views
5K
  • · Replies 2 ·
Replies
2
Views
2K
  • · Replies 11 ·
Replies
11
Views
3K
  • · Replies 3 ·
Replies
3
Views
1K
  • · Replies 29 ·
Replies
29
Views
4K
  • · Replies 15 ·
Replies
15
Views
2K
  • · Replies 10 ·
Replies
10
Views
2K