External Mind affecting Brain States

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The discussion centers on the influence of a non-physical mind on brain states, referencing researchers such as Stapp and Eccles. Participants explore the concept that the mind may select a macrostate, which subsequently determines the microstates of the brain. The idea that a non-physical mind could influence which brain state is realized is debated, with some arguing that such inquiries fall outside the realm of scientific inquiry. The thread ultimately highlights the challenges of discussing non-scientific questions within scientific forums.

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  • Understanding of quantum mechanics, particularly Many Worlds Interpretation.
  • Familiarity with concepts of macrostate and microstate in physics.
  • Knowledge of the philosophical implications of mind-body dualism.
  • Awareness of the limitations of scientific inquiry in addressing metaphysical questions.
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  • Research the Many Worlds Interpretation of quantum mechanics.
  • Explore the philosophical implications of mind-body dualism.
  • Study the works of physicists like Eugene Wigner and their views on consciousness.
  • Examine the criteria for scientific questions and their relevance in philosophical discussions.
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Philosophers, cognitive scientists, and anyone interested in the intersection of consciousness and quantum mechanics will benefit from this discussion.

Varon
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So many researchers like Stapp, Eccles, etc. talked about the mind able to influence the brain states. My question is.. how does a non-physical mind know what particular atoms and molecules and quantum states to influence? Some theorized that the mind simply chooses what macrostate to actualize (simply choosing one of the branches in Many worlds for example).. and it's automatic how the MICROstates are chosen by that MACROstates. Is this logical at all.. or totally refuted already? Some mention stuff like:

"At any moment the brain could take on many different states and only one of these possibilities is observed or experienced. Thus, we cannot rule out that a non-physical mind influences which one of the possible brain states is realized"

Is it possible stuff like this can happen? Or do you have arguments why this is not possible at all? I'm simply asking and not holding any view at all. Thanks.
 
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Varon said:
My question is.. how does a non-physical mind know what particular atoms and molecules and quantum states to influence?



Good question, but it's not a scientific one, hence such questions are usually ignored, even though they are relevant and significant(assuming that the "non-physical mind" proposition is true). A non-scientific question will usually receive a non-scientific answer that will hardly be very satisfying, but let's wait and see what the others think.
 

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