Modern Sci-Fi Books and Their Apparent Obsession with Brain Implants

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Discussion Overview

The discussion centers around the prevalence of brain implants in modern science fiction literature, exploring the implications of such technology on character development and human interaction. Participants express their views on how these implants affect storytelling, character relatability, and the portrayal of human experiences in speculative narratives.

Discussion Character

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  • Exploratory
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Main Points Raised

  • One participant expresses frustration with the frequent depiction of characters with brain implants, arguing that it creates a disconnect from human experiences and interactions.
  • Another participant suggests that older stories may be overlooked as modern technology, like cellphones, has changed societal behaviors and expectations.
  • Concerns are raised about the fantastical nature of downloading information directly into the brain, with one participant noting the current limitations in understanding brain function.
  • Discussion includes the challenge for science fiction writers to keep pace with rapidly evolving technology and predict future developments.
  • Some participants highlight the difference between 'science fiction' and 'space adventure,' suggesting that the latter may prioritize excitement over realism.
  • There is a suggestion that the trend towards more intimate access to information could fundamentally alter human thought processes and interactions.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants do not reach a consensus on the portrayal of brain implants in science fiction. While some express a dislike for the trend, others argue for its narrative potential and relevance to future technological developments.

Contextual Notes

Participants acknowledge the speculative nature of the discussion, with varying opinions on the realism and relatability of characters enhanced by technology. The implications of societal changes due to technology are also noted, but no definitive conclusions are drawn.

  • #31
DaveC426913 said:
My point is simply that it is not a replacement for human authoring. There will always be humans who desire to write.
Aha, then we're in heated agreement, @DaveC426913, my point was that professional authors will mostly be bots because they can overwhelm human authors in output. Anyone can write as a hobby (or fly as a hobby, good point), but why would I pay a person when I can have a bot write just as good a novel...or a thousand just as good novels?
 
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  • #32
Though we already use neurological implants for certain special needs populations (e.g., cochlear implants for deaf children), I doubt that the use of brain implants will become widespread. Who would want to buy a computing device that requires brain surgery for maintenance, repairs, and upgrades? Imagine having brain surgery every time you needed a new cell phone. The expense and the risks would both be unacceptable.

I think that the glasses (and earpieces?) we see in books like Neal Stevenson's "Snow Crash" would be more realistic. What is more, our primitive mind reading technology (with MRI) might be made much smaller in a science fiction story about the future. Brain augmentation might be as simple as putting on a hat.
 
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  • #33
Lren Zvsm said:
Who would want to buy a computing device that requires brain surgery for maintenance, repairs, and upgrades? Imagine having brain surgery every time you needed a new cell phone.
Why you do think engineers would commit such an egregious design flaw?
 
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  • #34
DaveC426913 said:
Why you do think engineers would commit such an egregious design flaw?
Yea, imagine building products that stop working in a few years and need to be upgraded.
 
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  • #35
Algr said:
Yea, imagine building products that stop working in a few years and need to be upgraded.
Haha. Seriously though, nobody's suggesting they won't cost money to upgrade - but that will be a software issue.

Future engineers would not design an implant that has a safety barrier to upgrading. That would be counter-productive to profit.
 
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  • #36
DaveC426913 said:
Why you do think engineers would commit such an egregious design flaw?
Engineers would not create such a design flaw, but some science fiction writers would.
 
  • #37
Lren Zvsm said:
Engineers would not create such a design flaw, but some science fiction writers would.
:frowns:
It's a bad science fiction writer that writes implausible engineering that the reader will see right through.
 
  • #38
I want a brain implant.
I forget why.
 
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  • #39
"What do we want?"
"Augmented memoryyyy!"
"When do we want it?"
"Want what?"
 
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  • #40
Lren Zvsm said:
Engineers would not create such a design flaw, but some science fiction writers would.
Of course the engineers wouldn't. The marketing executives would do this. Planned obsolescence isn't something that could happen by accident. The implant itself isn't the danger, it is giving someone else access to how your brain works that is the problem. So in a healthy trustworthy society, it would be okay. In ours IDK.
 
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  • #41
Algr said:
Of course the engineers wouldn't. The marketing executives would do this. Planned obsolescence isn't something that could happen by accident. The implant itself isn't the danger, it is giving someone else access to how your brain works that is the problem. So in a healthy trustworthy society, it would be okay. In ours IDK.
In a healthy trustworthy society, it would be okay for today. But society is unpredictable. You can't know that society will remain trustworthy.
 
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DaveC426913 said:
Of course.

The implausible aspect was the idea that the implant would need to be physically replaced regularly, like we toss away and upgrade our cell phones today.
Why would brain implants be more dependable than other electronic devices?
 
  • #45
Lren Zvsm said:
Why would brain implants be more dependable than other electronic devices?
Because otherwise they would fail as a product.

No one is going to put a device in their head that fails often enough that it needs to be replaced with dangerous surgery. And therefore, no one is going to build and try to sell a device that fails often enough that it needs to be replaced with dangerous surgery.
 

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