Extra energy from capacitor problem

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The discussion revolves around a parallel plate capacitor that is charged, disconnected from a battery, and then has its plate separation doubled. Participants are exploring the implications of these changes on the electric field, voltage, and energy stored in the capacitor.

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  • Conceptual clarification, Assumption checking, Mixed

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  • Participants are questioning the source of the extra energy when the separation between the capacitor plates is increased. They discuss the relationship between electric field, voltage, and energy, and how work done on the plates relates to energy storage.

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There is an ongoing exploration of the concepts involved, with some participants suggesting that work done on the plates contributes to the energy stored in the capacitor. Multiple interpretations of energy storage and the effects of changing plate separation are being considered.

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Participants are examining the assumptions related to energy conservation and the nature of energy storage in the electric field versus the plates themselves. The discussion reflects a lack of consensus on the implications of the work done on the plates.

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a parallel plate capacitor is charged by a battery and then disconnected from the battery. the separation between the plates is doubled...

the E-field stays the same since charge is constant
the voltage doubles since V=Ed
the energy doubles since U=0.5QV

I was wondering, where does this extra energy come from?

does total energy increase?
 
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Hint: There will be a force of attraction between the two plates...
 
the force should stay the same since it's F=EQ

how does that play into the increase in energy?
 
It takes work to increase the distance between the plates. You have to do work on the plates to get them apart further.
 
so the work done on the plates translate to energy stored in the plates? so the total energy does increase.
 
indigojoker said:
so the work done on the plates translate to energy stored in the plates? so the total energy does increase.
Energy stored in the electric field increases, the energy isn't actually stored in the plates. And yes, the total energy stored increases.
 

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