Extract Real Part From ln(e^{ix}+i)

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The discussion revolves around extracting the real part of the expression ln(e^{ix}+i). Participants explore various methods and approaches, including connections to logarithmic identities and complex analysis, while also referencing integration techniques involving Euler's formula.

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Main Points Raised

  • One participant inquires about the method to extract the real part of ln(e^{ix}+i) and suggests a connection to arctan(x) and complex logarithms.
  • Another participant provides a detailed derivation, expressing ln(e^{ix}+i) in terms of logarithmic identities and concluding that the real part is given by (1/2)log(2(1+sin(x))).
  • Several participants seek clarification on the derivation, specifically questioning the appearance of cos(x)^2 and the meaning of "arg" in the context of complex numbers.
  • A different approach is proposed, where the real part is expressed as (1/2)ln(2+2sin(x)), derived from manipulating the product of complex exponentials.
  • Clarifications are offered regarding the term "cosine square" as part of the modulus of the complex number and the definition of "arg" as the argument of the complex number.

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Participants express differing methods for extracting the real part, with no consensus reached on a single approach. Clarifications and questions indicate some uncertainty regarding the derivations presented.

Contextual Notes

Participants reference various mathematical identities and properties of complex numbers, but the discussion does not resolve the assumptions or definitions underlying these identities.

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How do I take the real part of this
[itex]ln(e^{ix}+i)[/itex]
I know you can write the arctan(x) in terms of logs with complex numbers should I do something like that? I came across this because I was trying to integrate sec(x) with Eulers formula.
 
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cragar said:
How do I take the real part of this
[itex]ln(e^{ix}+i)[/itex]
I know you can write the arctan(x) in terms of logs with complex numbers should I do something like that? I came across this because I was trying to integrate sec(x) with Eulers formula.



$$e^{ix}+i=\cos x+i\sin x+i=\cos x+(\sin x+1)i\Longrightarrow Log(e^{ix}+i)=\frac{1}{2}\log\left(\cos^2x+(\sin x+1)^2\right)+i\arg(e^{ix}+i)$$

So never mind what branch of the complex logarithm we choose, the real part is:

$$\frac{1}{2}\log\left(\cos^2x+(\sin x+1)^2\right)=\frac{1}{2}\log\left(2(1+\sin x)\right)$$
 
where did you get the cos(x)^2 and what does arg mean
 
Another way :
2*Real part = ln(exp(ix)+i)+ln(exp(-ix)-i)
(exp(ix)+i)*(exp(-ix)-i) = 1-i*exp(ix)+i*exp(-ix)+1 = 2+2sin(x)
Real part =(1/2) ln(2+2sin(x))
 
cragar said:
where did you get the cos(x)^2 and what does arg mean

Cosine square is part of the (complex) module (or absolute value) of the complex number written there, and arg = argument.

DonAntonio
 

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