Extraterrestrial sky color based on atmospheric composition and sun color

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Discussion Overview

The discussion revolves around determining the color of extraterrestrial skies based on atmospheric composition and the color of the parent star. Participants explore how different gases and particles in an atmosphere can influence sky color, referencing Earth and Mars as examples.

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Main Points Raised

  • One participant suggests that a human-breathable atmosphere would likely appear blue, but acknowledges the possibility of other colors depending on the gases present.
  • Another participant mentions that methane can create a blue atmosphere and discusses how Mars' reddish sky is due to rust particles, which are scattered by wind.
  • A participant explains that a gaseous atmosphere scatters blue light more than red, leading to a blue sky, and notes that the color of sunlight can be affected by atmospheric thickness.
  • There is a mention of advancements in computer graphics where sky simulation can be physically modeled, allowing for experimentation with different atmospheric conditions and their effects on sky color.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express varying assumptions about the color of breathable atmospheres and the effects of different atmospheric compositions on sky color. No consensus is reached on the definitive color of extraterrestrial skies or the implications of atmospheric composition.

Contextual Notes

Participants note that the scattering of light and atmospheric composition can lead to different visual effects, but the discussion remains open-ended regarding specific conditions and outcomes.

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How can one determine the color of another planet's sky from its atmosphere composition and parent star color? Earth's atmosphere is blue for most of the day, then turns red at sunset. Mars is sort of the opposite: it has a red sky which turns to a bluish hue at sunset.

[STRIKE]Until someone tells me otherwise, I assume that a human breathable atmosphere would have be a blue hue and not a different color such as green.[/STRIKE] I would certainly think its cool if other colored atmospheres can actually be breathed by humans.
 
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FtlIsAwesome said:
Until someone tells me otherwise, I assume that a human breathable atmosphere would have be a blue hue and not a different color such as green.
Scratch that, it seems the atmosphere can have an inert gas other than nitrogen, which I assume will change its color.
https://www.physicsforums.com/showthread.php?t=470447
 
Methane can cause a blue colored atmosphere. Mars' atmosphere tends to be redish because it is laden with rust (mineral limonite and magnetite). Magnetite reflects the limomite's reddish hue. The wind picks them up from the ground as dust and spreads them. The blue color seen in the first Mars photos was not the true color. The true color for most of the daytime was found to be butterscotch.

http://www.webexhibits.org/causesofcolor/14C.html
 
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Ignoring the effect of colored dust, a plain gaseous atmosphere will tend to scatter blue more than red----will tend to scatter short wavelength more than long.

Light coming to you direct from the sun will tend to be reddened, by how much depending on how much atmosphere it has had to pass thru

Scattering removes blue preferentially and sends it off in random directions

So light rays from the sun that pass overhead, aimed at somebody above and behind us, get their blue removed and scattered randomly and some of it comes down to us and we see the sky as blue (because of that scattered light).

It would work with pretty much any gas molecule, I think. Anyway with a breathable atmosphere it should tend to be

"blue skies, smiling at me:
nothing but blue skies, do I see!"

---Ancient Broadway Tune
 
In computer graphics, a bit new trend is to physically simulate the sky, rather than using 'sky boxes' like what was previously done to get realistic skies. There are many prominent people in this field who have released papers, such as Nigarbagea, etc.

Anyway, the point is that you could use these simulators and change the scattering coefficients, etc. to simulate different atmospheres. The scattering equations I would assume do not change from atmosphere to atmosphere (Rayleigh and Mie?) so you could easily find a simulator (or write one) and try changing the atmosphere coefficients and see what happens :)
 

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