Factoring Problem: Solving x(xsquared-1)(xsquared-1)=0

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The discussion revolves around solving the equation x(xsquared-1)(xsquared-1)=0 through factoring. Participants explore the reasoning behind finding the roots of the equation, including the values of x that satisfy it, and clarify the process of determining these solutions.

Discussion Character

  • Homework-related, Mathematical reasoning, Conceptual clarification

Main Points Raised

  • One participant expresses confusion about how to derive the solutions x=0, 1, and -1 from the equation.
  • Another participant suggests that the solutions should include x=0, 1, and -1, prompting a clarification on the reasoning behind these values.
  • A participant explains that if any factor of the equation equals zero, the entire product must equal zero, leading to the conclusion that x=0 is a valid solution.
  • Further discussion includes a new equation, x(xsquared-1)(xsquared-4)=0, where participants explore whether the solutions would be x=0, 1, -1, 2, and -2.
  • There is a correction regarding the nature of an expression versus an equation, emphasizing the importance of correctly framing the problem.
  • Participants express gratitude for assistance in solving multiple related questions, indicating a collaborative effort in understanding the concepts.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants generally agree on the process of finding solutions through factoring and the principle that a product equals zero if at least one factor is zero. However, there is some uncertainty regarding the initial understanding of why x=0 is a solution, and the discussion remains somewhat exploratory.

Contextual Notes

Participants demonstrate varying levels of understanding regarding the application of the zero product property and the distinction between expressions and equations. Some assumptions about prior knowledge of factoring and solving equations are present but not explicitly stated.

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Hi

I have been working on this factoring problem for a while and don't understand how to get the answer.

The question is:

x(xsquared-1)(xsquared-1)=0

The answer that is in the back of the book is x=0,1 but i don't understand how you can get these answers by using the root of 1.

Any help is appreciated

thanks
 
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You do mean the solutions being x=0, 1 and -1, right?
 
yea i didnt know how to do the + ontop - thing but that works too lol
 
Okay so you have x(x2-1)(x2-1)=0. Now, this question can be solved by inspection. Remember that if you multiply any number by zero, then you obtain zero. So for the above equation this allows us to write:

x=0

or

(x2-1)=0

Can you see why?

Edit: Sorry Slow typist
 
i see where you get that from but i don't understand why your allowed to do that
 
DethRose said:
i see where you get that from but i don't understand why your allowed to do that
Allowed to do what?

Do not be a mysterious oracle whose meaning we need to figure out on your own. We are simple people here!
 
ok well i understand how you get the 1,-1 but i don't understand why the 0 is an answer as well
 
Well, insert 0 at the x's place!
What is now the left-hand side of the equation.?
In particular, is it zero??
 
ok i get what your saying there so say you get into a situation where the eqn is :

x(x+1)(x-1)(x+2)(x-2)

is the answer x= 1,-1,2,-2, and 0?
 
  • #10
What you have written isn't an equation, it is an expression.
Please type in the equation you were thinking of!
 
  • #11
question is:

x(xsquared-1)(xsquared-4)=0
so i expanded to x(x+1)(x-1)(x+2)(x-2)=0

so i am wondering if the answer for that would be 1,-1,2,-2, and 0?
 
  • #12
Precisely!

When any numbers (or expressions) are multiplied together, and the product is 0, then at least one of the factors has to be 0!

And whenever one of the factors IS zero, then the product must be zero.
 
  • #13
great...thanks for the helo you just helped me solve like 8 questions on my assignment
 
  • #14
DethRose said:
great...thanks for the helo you just helped me solve like 8 questions on my assignment
Glad to be of help. :smile:
 
  • #15
All you need to know is in order to pull out a zero from nothing but multiplications you need to multiply by zero somewhere.
 

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