Factoring (u^3-1): Homework Solution

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The problem involves finding the limit as u approaches 1 of the expression ((u^4)-1)/((u^3)-1), with a focus on algebraic manipulation and factoring techniques.

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  • Exploratory, Mathematical reasoning, Problem interpretation

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  • Participants discuss the identification of (u-1) as a common factor and explore different ways to factor the numerator and denominator to simplify the limit expression. There is uncertainty about how to express the denominator in a factored form that includes (u-1).

Discussion Status

Some participants have provided guidance on factoring techniques and polynomial division. There is an ongoing exploration of the correct factorization of the numerator and denominator, with multiple interpretations being considered. The discussion is productive, with participants questioning and clarifying each other's reasoning.

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Participants are working within the constraints of algebraic manipulation and the requirement to find a limit, which may involve specific factorization techniques. There is a mention of prime factorization uniqueness, which adds to the complexity of the discussion.

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Homework Statement



This is a limit problem but what I'm stuck on is algebra: find lim as u approaches 1 of ((u^4)-1)/((u^3)-1).

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1 is a root and (u-1) is a common factor, so I want to rearrange the numerator and denominator so I can cancel (u-1) in the hopes that it will leave an equation that does not have a zero denominator when I plug in 1 to find the limit.

so the numerator either = ((u^2)-1)((u^2)+1) or (u-1)((u^3)+1) right?

The denominator I'm not sure how to write so that it has a factor (u-1) and = (u^3)-1. Any help is appreciated!
 
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u3-1= (u-1)(au2+bu+c)

so just equate coefficients now and you will be able to get it out.


3.141592654 said:
so the numerator either = ((u^2)-1)((u^2)+1) or (u-1)((u^3)+1) right?


Not or. There is only one.

u4-1 =(u2)2-1

the right side looks like a2-b2 which can be factored as (a+b)(a-b). So the first one is correct. Can you factor u2-1 again?
 
It can be seen immediately that u=1 is one of the solutions, so you can apply long divison with u-1 to find the other part.
 
Originally posted by 3.141592654
so the numerator either = ((u^2)-1)((u^2)+1) or (u-1)((u^3)+1) right?

rock.freak667 said:
Not or. There is only one.

u4-1 =(u2)2-1
There is only one factorization if you are limited to prime factorizations, but without this restriction, there can be multiple factorizations. The prime factorization is unique, up to the order of the factors. Pi's first factorization is correct and his second is not, but another would be (u - 1)(u^3 + u^2 + u + 1).

It works the same way with polynomials as it does with integers. For instance, 40 = 4*10 = 5*8 = 2*20 = 2*2*2*5. All of these are valid factorizations of the number 40, but only one of them is a prime factorization.

rock.freak667 said:
the right side looks like a2-b2 which can be factored as (a+b)(a-b). So the first one is correct. Can you factor u2-1 again?
 

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