Falling Chimney, Angular and Linear Acceleration

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The discussion focuses on analyzing the falling motion of a cylindrical chimney modeled as a thin rod. Key calculations involve determining the radial and tangential accelerations at a 29° angle with the vertical using energy conservation principles rather than torque. The moment of inertia is calculated using the parallel axis theorem, leading to the expression I = 1/3 * M * R^2. The radial acceleration is derived as a(radial) = 3 * g * (1 - cos(29°)), yielding approximately 3.69 m/s^2. However, the tangential acceleration calculation remains problematic, with attempts yielding values that do not match expected results, indicating potential errors in the application of energy conservation or kinematic equations.
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Homework Statement



A tall, cylindrical chimney falls over when its base is ruptured. Treat the chimney as a thin rod of length 49.0 m. Answer the following for the instant it makes an angle of 29.0° with the vertical as it falls. (Hint: Use energy considerations, not a torque.)

(a) What is the radial acceleration of the top?
(b) What is the tangential acceleration of the top?
(c) At what angle θ is the tangential acceleration equal to g?

R = 49 m
theta = 29°

Homework Equations



Kinematic equations for Rotational Forces and Circular motion
Kinetic Energy = 1/2*I*w^2

The Attempt at a Solution



First I can find the moment of Inertia for a rod, which is: 1/12 * MR^2
However I need to use the parallel axis theorem to find: 1/12*MR^2 + M(R/2)^2
Simplifying this I get:

I = 1/3 * M * R^2

I already know that I can find the angular velocity through conservation of energy:

KE + U initial = KE + U final

(these can be found if we follow the kinematics of the center of mass)

0 + Mg(h/2) = 1/2*I*w^2 + Mg(R/2 * cos(theta))
g = 1/3 * R * w^2 + g*cos(theta
g*(1-cos(theta)) = 1/3 * R * w^2
w^2 = (3g * (1-cos(theta))) / R


From circular motion kinematics we know that:

a(radial) = (v^2) / R

We also know that:

v = w*R

So combining them I get:

a(radial) = (w*r)^2 / R
a(radial) = w^2 * R


After plugging in values I get:

a(radial) = 3 * g * (1 - cos(theta))
a(radial) = 3 * 9.81 * (1 - cos(29))
a(radial) = 3.69 m/s^2


From there I need to find the tangential acceleration, but I can't seem to get a decent answer.

I know that:

a(tangential) = alpha * R

and using kinematic equations I can find that

w^2 = 2(alpha)*(theta)
alpha = (w^2) / (2*(theta'))


Where theta' here would be a radian measure or 29*(pi/180)

but this ends up giving me a value of 0.0744, which can't be right. Am I missing something?
 
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The problem with your solution is that a is not constant when the chimney is falling. You have to use mgh = .5mv^2 to find v and then you can find a tangential. To find the change in height, you must use the center of mass of the chimney ( the middle) when it is straight, and when it it at an angle of 29 degrees)
 
alright so I can apply conservation of energy by saying:

1/2 Mgh = 1/2*M*v^2 + 1/2 gh * cos(theta)
gh = v^2 + gh(cos(theta))
v = sqrt( gh(1-cos(theta)) )


But that would give me an answer of 7.76 m/s^2, which is close, but not right (Webassign gives me an answer of 7.13 m/s^2)

*Edit*
1/2 Mgh = 1/2*M*v^2 + 1/2 Mgh * cos(theta)

Forgot the mass on the Potential Energy, but the other two variants of the formula are correct, so this wouldn't account for the error in the final answer.
 
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The book claims the answer is that all the magnitudes are the same because "the gravitational force on the penguin is the same". I'm having trouble understanding this. I thought the buoyant force was equal to the weight of the fluid displaced. Weight depends on mass which depends on density. Therefore, due to the differing densities the buoyant force will be different in each case? Is this incorrect?

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