Females vs Males: Lifespan & Why?

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The discussion revolves around the reasons behind the observed difference in lifespan between females and males. Participants explore various factors, including genetic, social, and evolutionary influences, as well as health-related aspects. The conversation touches on historical data, behavioral patterns, and biological differences, making it a multifaceted inquiry into lifespan disparities.

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  • Some participants suggest that the presence of grandmothers in families may contribute to higher survival rates of children, potentially indicating an evolutionary advantage for longer-living females.
  • Others propose that genetic factors might play a role in the differences in behavior and mortality rates between genders, with males being more prone to risky behaviors and higher mortality rates.
  • It is noted that males are significantly more likely to die from homicides, accidents, and suicides, particularly between the ages of 15 and 30.
  • Some participants mention the possibility of females having a stronger immune system, although the relevance of this factor is debated.
  • One participant highlights that lifestyle choices, such as smoking and alcohol consumption, contribute to higher mortality rates among males.
  • There is a reference to research indicating that females may have a more powerful immune system than males, but the impact of this on lifespan is questioned.
  • A claim is made regarding the role of mitochondrial function in lifespan differences, referencing literature on evolution and life.

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Participants express a range of views on the factors influencing lifespan differences, with no consensus reached. Some emphasize genetic and biological explanations, while others focus on social and behavioral aspects. The discussion remains unresolved with multiple competing perspectives.

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Limitations include the reliance on historical data, the complexity of defining genetic versus social influences, and the potential for confounding factors in health outcomes. The discussion also reflects varying interpretations of research findings.

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dear readers,
this has puzzled me for years.

why do females tend to have a longer lifespan than males?

i would much appreciate your answers
thanks.
 
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You are not the only puzzled by the question.

I recall reading about research done somewhere in Scandinavia. Research was based on analysis of old records, going back to 19th or even 18th century. It turned out that families where there was Grandmother present were having on average more children surviving to adulthood. Could be that's evolutionary then - longer living woman have more chances or passing their genes to next generations.

Scandinavia was a perfect place for research as many other factors were filtered out, but don't ask me about details. I believe this is a published work, should be possible to google.
 
Females are genetically less crazy than males. They are significantly less likely to be killed in homicides, accidents and suicides. All else equal, an average male is almost 3 times more likely to die between ages of 15 and 30 than an average female. (And that's in our modern, relatively peaceful society. You can imagine what the ratio was like 100 or 200 years ago.) Males are more likely to abuse psychoactive substances, etc. Males are more likely to be exposed to continuous high levels of stress, and that is known to result in higher cardiovascular mortality later in life.
 
So what you're saying its not a genetic difference rather than social?
 
The reason why males and females behave differently may very well be genetic.
 
Hamster: "Females are genetically less crazy than males" hehehe ...
Another point: Women smoke significant less than men.
Male exemplars of our species have a higher mortality than females during their whole lifespan, even when unborn.
As compensation the production of males is around 5% higher than females.
 
Borek said:
It turned out that families where there was Grandmother present were having on average more children surviving to adulthood. Could be that's evolutionary then - longer living woman have more chances or passing their genes to next generations.
Its interesting, why human females live almost twice as long, as they are able to give birth. Obviously the grandmothers are good for something. Probably their increased knowledge and higher experience helps the grand-children to survive.
 
Bartleby50 said:
Its interesting, why human females live almost twice as long, as they are able to give birth. Obviously the grandmothers are good for something. Probably their increased knowledge and higher experience helps the grand-children to survive.

Something like that. From what I remember presence of Grandfathers didn't guarantee higher number of children surviving, so it was not just a matter of additional workforce present.
 
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I read or heard a long time ago that females have a stronger immune system than males.i don't know how much difference this would make or even if this is true though.
 
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I'm not sure if immune system is all that relevant any more. People rarely die from causes that can be prevented by strong immune system. Top 5 causes of death in the United States, percentages of total, and male-to-female ratios:

1. Heart diseases: 26%, 1.5
2. Cancer: 23%, 1.4
3. Stroke: 6%, 1.0
4. Chronic lower respiratory diseases: 5%, 1.3
5. Accidents: 5%, 2.2

Stroke is an equal-opportunity killer. 80% to 90% of "Chronic lower respiratory diseases" are due to smoking, and 1.3 male-to-female death ratio nicely reflects historical prevalence of smoking in the country.

In cancers, the pattern is also quite clear: the one biggest killer is lung cancer, caused by smoking, and the death ratio is again 1.3. There are huge differences in death rates due to cancer of mouth (2.1), esophagus (3.6), and liver (1.9), all of which are usually caused by chronic excessive drinking. On the other hand, there are no significant differences between sexes in pancreatic and colon cancer (both often caused by excessive consumption of meat, particularly processed meat). The difference, of course, is that dangers of smoking and drinking have been known for a long time, and dangers of processed meat are still not fully part of public conscience. So, females are not significantly more resistant to cancers when exposed to carcinogens, but they are more capable of avoiding known sources of danger.

The 1.5 ratio in heart diseases is a whole separate issue.
 
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Read Rick Lane books on evolution and life...its leaky mitochondria. That is the answer. His book is an amazing amalgamation of 5 disciplines. And all based on real science with references.
 

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