Few questions for mathematicians

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The discussion revolves around the experiences and advice of mathematicians and students regarding problem-solving in mathematics, the expectations of being a mathematician, and self-study strategies. It includes personal reflections on challenges faced during high school and college mathematics, as well as recommendations for those interested in studying math independently.

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  • Some participants express that they did not solve all problems during their studies and felt a mix of frustration and challenge when encountering unsolvable problems.
  • There is a consensus that being a mathematician does not require one to solve every problem, with some emphasizing the importance of understanding concepts over rote memorization.
  • Advice for self-study includes enjoying mathematics as a hobby, seeking help when needed, and reading extensively on the subject.
  • Some participants highlight the existence of unsolved problems in mathematics, suggesting that this is a normal part of the field.
  • Several participants note the significant difference between high school and university-level mathematics, with some expressing that the latter can feel disconnected from earlier studies.
  • Recommendations for books and resources are provided, with some suggesting specific titles for high school level study.
  • There are mentions of the importance of maintaining a balance between academic performance and personal enjoyment of mathematics, with warnings against excessive pressure.

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Participants generally agree that encountering unsolvable problems is common and that being a mathematician does not equate to solving everything. However, there are varying perspectives on the best approaches to self-study and the emotional responses to challenges in mathematics.

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Some discussions reflect personal experiences that may not apply universally, and there are differing views on the transition from high school to university mathematics. The advice given is subjective and may depend on individual learning styles and preferences.

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This discussion may be useful for high school students considering further studies in mathematics, current college students seeking advice on problem-solving and self-study, and anyone interested in the experiences of mathematicians regarding their educational journeys.

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Hello there

I have few questions for mathematicians

1- When you was in High school and college, did you solve all problems or you run over some math problems that you couldn't solve? how did you feel when you could not solve something?

2- Is being mathematician means that I have to be able to solve everything?

3- What is your best advice to someone who wants to study math on his own?

Thanks.
 
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1.) I'm still in high school. I run over some problems that I can't solve, but go back to it later or after a few days. I feel a litle frustrated and the same time challenged if I can't solve it. And the last option is to ask some help.

2.) No you don't. For me, being a mathematician is to understand how the math works, and how to derive the math (not the usual memorize, memorize, memorize...). You should learn how to do things from the start, not from where someone gave you a start and continue from it.

3.) My best advice: Enjoy the math, don't think of it as a duty, but as a hobby.
 
You are aware that there are some unsolved problems, right? I don't think they're unsolved because nobody's tried to solve them.
 
As you learn more math, you find more ways to come up with problems no one can solve or prove, and the more possible exceptions you can come up with for things that once seemed simple.
 
racer said:
Hello there

I have few questions for mathematicians

1- When you was in High school and college, did you solve all problems or you run over some math problems that you couldn't solve? how did you feel when you could not solve something?

2- Is being mathematician means that I have to be able to solve everything?

3- What is your best advice to someone who wants to study math on his own?

Thanks.

Ruffles

I'm not a professional mathematician, but hey I manage to keep a near flawless GPA in my Math courses during college.

Let's say

1-hehe...of course not. I'll be damn if I would be able to solve all problems in a section. It's huge task, and to be honest, i felt there were better things to do than simply do all those problems that seem rather formulaic. However, if there were problems I couldn't solve but wanted too, I would leave it alone, come back to it, work on it, couldn't get it ask someone to help me.

2-Of course not. You should have an idea how to solve most things in your book though, but it does not mean all problems you see should be trivia to you. Give me a problem regarding elementary number theory and i'll flap around like a fish out of water.

3-Work hard, talk to other people with your interest, and above all, enjoy working in mathematics.
 
racer said:
Hello there

I have few questions for mathematicians

1- When you were in High school and college, did you solve all problems or you run over some math problems that you couldn't solve? how did you feel when you could not solve something?

2- Is being mathematician means that I have to be able to solve everything?

3- What is your best advice to someone who wants to study math on his own?

Thanks.

1.) Everyone runs into problems that can't solve. What is really important is that you figure it out eventually. Personally when I can't solve a problem I just leave it alone and come back later, most of the time I just need to look at the problem form a different angle and clearing my mind for a little bit usually helps

2.) Being a good mathematician means knowing how to apply what you know to solve other problems. Even today there are many unsolved problems. Here's a starting list: http://mathworld.wolfram.com/UnsolvedProblems.html

3.) Read as many books on a subject as you can, it'll help you get a better and a wider understanding for the subject.
 
If you are not the bookish or bookworm type, try learning from someone you know is great at the subject :D
 
1. You will always be run over by math problems.

2. No

3. Here are some great "High School" level books:

a. The Shape of Space (solve all the problems!)

b. Journey Through Genius

c. How to Prove It (Do the proofs and check them on Physicsforums -- be sure to mention that you are a High Schooler working on your own)

d. Who is Fourier?

All the books above are challenging, but all you need is HS Geometry and Trig.

And remember we are here to help you for Free and free is a very good price.
 
racer said:
Hello there

I have few questions for mathematicians

...

3- What is your best advice to someone who wants to study math on his own?

Thanks.
In my opinion:
Do it for the love of it. I think there is only one person in my math classes who does consistantly better than me (I'm not bragging I go to a very small school). She hates math(!) because from day one she was obsessed with her grades and because of this she stopped caring about the material and only cared about her GPA. That is not to say you shouldn't think about them at all but *I think* in the long run, it will be better for you to care deeply about what you study more. She's an absolutly miserable person and every semester she's worse to be around which is really unfortunate.
There is already a rediculous amount of pressure on students to do well so don't add any to yourself. Study what interest you. Do your best and ENJOY it.
 
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Thanks for the encouraging and inspiring sentences.
 
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I am not a mathematician; however, I assure you that you will have a massive burnout if you let the problems you cannot solve get to you too much. Get back to them later, read, ask for help.
 
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Back when... I found the difference between high school maths and university maths so great that the two seemed unconnected.

I would settle for nothing less than 100% up to the age of 18, then I started doing some real pure maths...

A lot of people dropped out because they thought they could carry on through university just solving problems.

My advice would be to work at a steady rate and to keep you grades the best they can be without putting too much pressure on yourself. Enjoy your maths but, more importantly, enjoy life!
 
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J77 said:
Back when... I found the difference between high school maths and university maths so great that the two seemed unconnected.

I would settle for nothing less than 100% up to the age of 18, then I started doing some real pure maths...
How very true! I took modules in my a levels called "pure mathematics n" (I think n ran up to 6, but I only took 1 to 3) which were just calculus: differentiation, integration, diff eqns. It was quite a shock getting to university to find that what I thought was pure maths was really applied, and that real pure maths was completely different! I know that a level exam boards have since changed the names of modules to "core mathematics"
 

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