Finally, fiber to the premises-- FTTP

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The discussion centers around the transition to fiber internet service, specifically Fiber to the Premises (FTTP) and related technologies, as well as nostalgic reflections on past internet speeds and technologies. Participants share personal experiences and historical anecdotes related to internet connectivity.

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  • One participant expresses excitement about transitioning from satellite internet to FTTP, highlighting significant improvements in speed and reliability.
  • Another participant reminisces about the slow speeds of dial-up modems, indicating a shared sentiment regarding the frustrations of past internet experiences.
  • A third participant recalls the historical context of internet speeds, mentioning a theorem from the 1980s regarding telephony bit rates and reflecting on the evolution of technology.
  • There is a humorous comparison made about the limitations of early UNIX systems and the challenges of using commands with very slow data transmission rates.

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Participants generally agree on the positive impact of modern internet speeds compared to historical experiences, but there is no formal consensus on the specifics of the historical references or the theorem mentioned.

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Some statements about historical internet speeds and technologies are anecdotal and may lack precise references or definitions, leaving room for interpretation and further exploration.

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After living under a satellite dish for 20 or so years...

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We have internet service that is actually... usable internet service... LoL

http://testmy.net/compID/60629002676

Man, it's a big change... Love it. :oldbiggrin:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fiber_to_the_x#Fiber_to_the_premises
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fiber_to_the_x

In our case, it's actually... FTTD (fiber to the desktop), then wireless through the rest of the house, by way of ahttp://www.nemont.net/DSLModem/bec_7800tn.pdf

LoL...from 223 Kbps, to around 25.00 Mbps, or better... :approve:

Oh yeah, absolutely no bandwidth limit or throttling either...

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bandwidth_throttling
 
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OCR said:
LoL...from 223 Kbps, to around 25.00 Mbps, or better... :approve:
I remember the days of 14.4kb/s dial up modems! But yeah, going back to less than 1mb/s would drive me up the wall. Welcome to the modern world :D
 
Greg Bernhardt said:
I remember the days of 14.4kb/s dial up modems!
And I remember the days when 14.4kb/sec was blazingly fast in comparison to what I was getting.
 
(This is very unscientific but kinda fun) There once was a published paper in the early 1980's that had a proved theorem about the limits of the bit rate for telephony of that time - does anyone remember? I think it was on the order of 1024bps - maybe 2048. It was in ACM, I'm pretty sure. Anyway this was back when we used the term baud, and a 50 baud modem was a defacto standard.

Had a PDP running UNIX - the terminal was a tty, at maybe ~30 baud. Think of typewriter with a console the size of Kansas.
I'm tempted to say we had hamsters carrying bits back and forth.

Ever wonder why UNIX commands ( the originals like ls, rm, cp, mv) are so terse? This is what is was like:
Code: 
Me: hit "l"
UNIX tty:... chacka "l"
Me: hit "s"
UNIX tty:... chacka "s"
Me: hit <return>
UNIX tty:... chacka  pause...
chacka  chacka file1
chacka chacka file2

-- extra chacka-chacka-chacka sounds removed for clarity.
Total time maybe 15 seconds. The hamsters would have choked on Linux commands with "--long options"
 

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