Finally Some Answers - Alien: Covenant

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The discussion revolves around the film "Alien: Covenant," exploring its connections to previous entries in the franchise, particularly "Prometheus" and the original "Alien." Participants express their opinions on the film's narrative, character development, and overall quality, as well as their interpretations of specific elements from the earlier films.

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Main Points Raised

  • Some participants express excitement about the potential backstory of the alien pilot corpse hinted at in the original "Alien" and how "Alien: Covenant" may address these questions.
  • Others question the interpretation of the "alien pilot corpse," suggesting it refers to the Engineer from "Prometheus" rather than a pilot, indicating a lack of clarity on terminology.
  • A participant notes that the "corpse" seen in the new film is primarily the "armor" worn by the Engineers, referencing online footage to support this claim.
  • Some viewers express disappointment with the film, criticizing the portrayal of scientists and the film's inability to balance horror and narrative depth.
  • Concerns are raised about the crew's lack of protective gear when exploring an unknown planet, highlighting perceived flaws in the film's logic.
  • Several participants share dissatisfaction with the film's dialogue and overall execution, with one likening it to a remake of the original "Alien."
  • One participant reflects on their viewing experience on an OLED screen, noting that it affected their perception of the film's production quality.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express a range of opinions about the film, with some enjoying it while others are critical. There is no consensus on the film's quality or its effectiveness in addressing the backstory of the franchise.

Contextual Notes

Participants reference specific scenes and elements from both "Alien: Covenant" and earlier films, indicating varying interpretations and assumptions about the narrative and character roles. The discussion reflects differing expectations regarding the film's connection to its predecessors.

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Have you guys seen the trailers yet for Alien: Covenant? While I'm not overly fond of the Horror genre I have to admit that the first time I saw the alien pilot corpse in the original Alien I couldn't help but to want to know more... much more about his/her/its backstory. The newest episode looks like it may finally resolve much of what was hinted at originally and unsatisfying in Prometheus.
 
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Just saw the new movie. It was pretty good. What do you mean by "alien pilot corpse"? Both Prometheus and Alien: Covenant should answer most of your questions.
 
Amrator said:
Just saw the new movie. It was pretty good. What do you mean by "alien pilot corpse"? Both Prometheus and Alien: Covenant should answer most of your questions.
I take it you did not see the original Alien movie.
 
phinds said:
I take it you did not see the original Alien movie.
No, I did. Is he referring to the Engineer that had its chest ripped open (Presumably from a chestburster)? Because that's what it is, an Engineer (The white humanoids from Prometheus). I don't remember them referring to it as a pilot. Maybe they did, I just don't remember.
 
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Amrator said:
No, I did. Is he referring to the Engineer that had its chest ripped open (Presumably from a chestburster)? Because that's what it is, an Engineer (The white humanoids from Prometheus). I don't remember them referring to it as a pilot. Maybe they did, I just don't remember.
Ah. I, for some reason, had the immediate impression that it was the pilot. There might even have BEEN a reason but I've forgotten.
 
In the new one you'll see that most of the "corpse" was the "armor" the Engineers wore. (You can see an Engineer putting it on in online footage I saw yesterday somewhere.)
 
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Saw it last night and was immensely disappointed. The stupidity of space scientists in this one is off the charts ridiculous. The film couldn't decide if it wanted to tell the possibly interesting back story of the series or be the classic horror thriller. It failed in both aspects. Watered down on both ends. Not scary either. Fassbender is a great character, everyone else forgettable.
 
And the crew jumps out of their shuttle onto a world they know nothing about, in soft clothes. No hazmat suits, no space suits. "Infect me! Infect me!"
 
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Amrator said:
Just saw the new movie. It was pretty good. What do you mean by "alien pilot corpse"? Both Prometheus and Alien: Covenant should answer most of your questions.
I have the impression that it is the image at 47:15 of this video ?

 
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I just watched "Alien: Covenant" on a new OLED screen from a bluray player.

Wow -- what a crap experience that was! :oldruck:

There I was, hoping for a follow-on from Prometheus, with Noomi Rapace continuing her "journey". But instead it's little more than a remake of the first Alien film, with names and places changed.

I wonder... am I the only one who thinks the dialogue is seriously weak?

Curiously, on the UHD OLED screen, most of the indoor scenes looked too-obviously like film sets. And the space vehicles looked too-obviously like models, though not quite as bad as the original Star Wars.

Now I'm wondering whether watching movies on OLED from a 4K bluray source will ruin them for me. :oldcry:

Has anyone else had this kind of experience with UHD?
 
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strangerep said:
I just watched "Alien: Covenant" on a new OLED screen from a bluray player.
My condolences.

strangerep said:
Wow -- what a crap experience that was! :oldruck:
I agree. I almost feel asleep halfway through "Alien: Pollutant".

strangerep said:
I wonder... am I the only one who thinks the dialogue is seriously weak?
No.
 
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