Find $a_{2017}$: Sequence Challenge

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The discussion revolves around finding the term $a_{2017}$ in a sequence defined by the initial condition $a_1 = 1$ and the recursive relationship given by the equation $$\frac{a_n}{n+1}=\frac{\sum_{i=1}^{n-1}a_i}{n-1}.$$ The scope includes mathematical reasoning and problem-solving related to sequences.

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Details regarding the derivation steps and assumptions underlying the recursive relationship remain unspecified, leading to potential ambiguity in the solutions proposed.

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Find $a_{2017}$, if $a_1 = 1$, and $$\frac{a_n}{n+1}=\frac{\sum_{i=1}^{n-1}a_i}{n-1}.$$
 
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lfdahl said:
Find $a_{2017}$, if $a_1 = 1$, and $$\frac{a_n}{n+1}=\frac{\sum_{i=1}^{n-1}a_i}{n-1}---(1).$$

$a_{2017}=1009\times 2^{2016}$ correct ?
 
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Albert said:
$a_{2017}=1009\times 2^{2016}$ correct ?

Yes, that´s correct!
 
my solution:
from(1) we have:
$a_1=1,a_2=3,a_3=8,a_4=20,a_5=48,------$
so we may set :$a_n=2a_{n-1}+2^{n-2}---(2)$
or $a_n-a_{n-1}=a_{n-1}+2^{n-2}--(3)$
and $S_{n-1}=a_n(\dfrac{n-1}{n+1})---(4)$
so $$a_{2017}-{\sum_{i=1}^{2016}a_i}=2^{2016}$$
or $a_{2017}-S_{2016}=2^{2016}$
from $(3)(4)$$a_{2017}=1009\times 2^{2016}$
 
Albert said:
my solution:
from(1) we have:
$a_1=1,a_2=3,a_3=8,a_4=20,a_5=48,------$
so we may set :$a_n=2a_{n-1}+2^{n-2}---(2)$
or $a_n-a_{n-1}=a_{n-1}+2^{n-2}--(3)$
and $S_{n-1}=a_n(\dfrac{n-1}{n+1})---(4)$
so $$a_{2017}-{\sum_{i=1}^{2016}a_i}=2^{2016}$$
or $a_{2017}-S_{2016}=2^{2016}$
from $(3)(4)$$a_{2017}=1009\times 2^{2016}$

Good job, Albert! Thankyou for your participation!
 

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