Find all solutions (0 - 2pi) for "tan2x^2 - 1 = 0 "

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The discussion revolves around finding all solutions for the equation "tan(2x)^2 - 1 = 0" within the interval from 0 to 2π. Participants explore various methods for solving the equation, including the use of double angle identities and quadratic equations, while expressing uncertainty about their approaches and results.

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  • Some participants express that the equation can be transformed into two quadratic equations using the double angle identity for tangent.
  • There is mention of encountering irrational solutions when applying the quadratic formula to one of the derived equations.
  • One participant suggests solving the equation directly using the relationship tan(2x) = ±1, referencing the arctangent values and the periodicity of the tangent function.
  • Another participant proposes an alternative expression for the solution involving an arbitrary integer to simplify the representation of solutions.
  • One participant points out a potential mistake in applying the double angle identity, providing a more complex formulation that leads to a different quadratic equation.

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Participants do not reach a consensus on the best method for solving the equation. Multiple approaches are discussed, with some participants favoring direct solutions while others prefer using quadratic equations. Uncertainty remains regarding the correctness of the methods and the derived solutions.

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Some participants express confusion over the irrational solutions obtained and the complexity of the quadratic equations derived from the double angle identity. There are also indications of unresolved mathematical steps in the proposed solutions.

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This discussion may be useful for students and enthusiasts of trigonometry looking to understand different approaches to solving trigonometric equations, particularly those involving double angle identities and quadratic forms.

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tan22x - 1 = 0. Find all solutions from 0 to 2pi

1.) sqrt(tan22x) = sqrt(1)
2.) tan2x = +- 1 (reason for two quadratic equations in #4)
3.) use double angle identity for tan and rationalize to form two quadratic equations:
4.) tan2x + 2tanx - 1 AND tan2x -2tanx -1
5.) now I use quadratic equation but I've come to a roadblock with the second equation in #4 because I'm getting irrational solutions: (1 +- sqrt(2))
6.) I'm trying to find exact answer in radians. I'm not even sure I'm getting a correct answer. I'm totally stumped here and need help before moving on.
 
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estex198 said:
tan22x - 1 = 0. Find all solutions from 0 to 2pi

1.) sqrt(tan22x) = sqrt(1)
2.) tan2x = +- 1 (reason for two quadratic equations in #4)
3.) use double angle identity for tan and rationalize to form two quadratic equations:
4.) tan2x + 2tanx - 1 AND tan2x -2tanx -1
5.) now I use quadratic equation but I've come to a roadblock with the second equation in #4 because I'm getting irrational solutions: (1 +- sqrt(2))
6.) I'm trying to find exact answer in radians. I'm not even sure I'm getting a correct answer. I'm totally stumped here and need help before moving on.

From $\displaystyle \begin{align*} \tan{(2x)} = \pm 1 \end{align*}$ just remember $\displaystyle \begin{align*} \arctan{(-1)} = -\frac{\pi}{4}, \arctan{(1)} = \frac{\pi}{4} \end{align*}$ and the period of the tangent function is $\displaystyle \begin{align*} \pi \end{align*}$, giving

$\displaystyle \begin{align*} 2x &= \pm \frac{\pi}{4} + \pi n \textrm{ where } n \in \mathbf{Z} \\ x &= \pm \frac{\pi}{8} + \frac{\pi}{2} n \end{align*}$

and use this to get all the solutions in the region $\displaystyle \begin{align*} x \in [0, 2\pi] \end{align*}$.
 
For the first quadratic in #4 i have "-1 +- sqrt(2)" How can I find exact angles from these in radians??
 
estex198 said:
For the first quadratic in #4 i have "-1 +- sqrt(2)" How can I find exact angles from these in radians??

You don't. You solve the equation $\displaystyle \begin{align*} \tan{(2x)} = \pm 1 \end{align*}$ directly without resorting to a quadratic.
 
Prove It said:
From $\displaystyle \begin{align*} \tan{(2x)} = \pm 1 \end{align*}$ just remember $\displaystyle \begin{align*} \arctan{(-1)} = -\frac{\pi}{4}, \arctan{(1)} = \frac{\pi}{4} \end{align*}$ and the period of the tangent function is $\displaystyle \begin{align*} \pi \end{align*}$, giving

$\displaystyle \begin{align*} 2x &= \pm \frac{\pi}{4} + \pi n \textrm{ where } n \in \mathbf{Z} \\ x &= \pm \frac{\pi}{8} + \frac{\pi}{2} n \end{align*}$

and use this to get all the solutions in the region $\displaystyle \begin{align*} x \in [0, 2\pi] \end{align*}$.
Thanks! You really made this easy... Since I'm trying to get better at trig equations, I hope you don't mind my next question... Is there is another way?
 
I'm sure there probably are, but multiple angle identities exist to make solving equations simpler, not more difficult.
 
estex198 said:
Thanks! You really made this easy... Since I'm trying to get better at trig equations, I hope you don't mind my next question... Is there is another way?

I would approach it just as has Prove It. I would express the solution a bit differently:

$$2x=\frac{\pi}{4}+k\frac{\pi}{2}=\frac{\pi}{4}(2k+1)$$ where $k$ is an arbitrary integer.

Hence:

$$x=\frac{\pi}{8}(2k+1)$$ and then let $k$ be all those values which place $x$ in the given domain.
 
Having reviewed your work, you have made some mistakes. First of all, the double angle identity is $\displaystyle \begin{align*} \tan{(2x)} \equiv \frac{2\tan{(x)}}{1 - \tan^2{(x)}} \end{align*}$, and so using it in your problem gives

$\displaystyle \begin{align*} \tan^2{(2x)} &= 1 \\ \left[ \frac{2\tan{(x)}}{1 - \tan^2{(x)}} \right] ^2 &= 1 \\ \frac{4\tan^2{(x)}}{1 - 2\tan^2{(x)} + \tan^4{(x)}} &= 1 \\ 4\tan^2{(x)} &= 1 - 2\tan^2{(x)} + \tan^4{(x)} \\ 0 &= \tan^4{(x)} - 6\tan^2{(x)} + 1 \end{align*}$

While this is a quadratic equation (you will need to let $\displaystyle \begin{align*} X = \tan^2{(x)} \end{align*}$ to solve it) it is still an extremely difficult problem to try to solve...
 

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