Find Expected Value for p - Can You Suggest a Quicker Way?

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The discussion revolves around finding the expected value for momentum \( p \) in a quantum mechanics context involving a one-dimensional particle constrained within a potential well. The original poster expresses uncertainty about the efficiency of their current method and seeks a quicker approach.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory, Assumption checking, Mathematical reasoning

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • Participants discuss the complexity of computing the integral for the expected value of momentum and consider alternative representations of the wave function. There is also mention of the potential simplifications due to the properties of sinusoidal functions.

Discussion Status

The conversation is ongoing, with participants exploring different methods and questioning the efficiency of their approaches. Some guidance on leveraging symmetry properties has been suggested, but no consensus has been reached regarding the best method to proceed.

Contextual Notes

Participants are navigating the constraints of the problem, including the requirement to compute both \( \bar{p} \) and \( \bar{p}^2 \), with some expressing concerns about the length of these calculations.

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I have done a lot of counts but I'm sure that there will be a quicker way.. Can you suggest me?

We have a particle in 1D that can moves only on ##[0,a]## because of the potential ##V(x)=\begin{cases}0, x\in(0,a)\\ \infty, otherwise\end{cases}##

At t=0, ##\displaystyle\psi(x,0)=\frac{\phi_1(x)+e^{i\gamma}\phi_2(x)}{\sqrt2}##

Find the expected value for ##p##.

I have followed the way ##\bar{p}=-i \hbar\int \psi(x)* \cdot \frac{\partial}{\partial x} \psi(x) \ dx##...

Can I follow a quicker way?
 
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Is that integral too lengthy to compute?
 
It is, but what it asks me to compute after that is even longer.. ##\bar {p}^2##!

Can't I express the state at t=0 as: ##| \psi(x,0)>=\frac{1}{\sqrt2} (|1>+e^{i \gamma} |2>##?
 
How is it lengthy, it's just integral of product sinusoids, you can make use of their (anti)symmetry property to eliminate some terms without actually calculating it.
 
mmh.. for example?
 
##p^2## is much easier than ##p##. I just computed its expectation value in my head.

This is because ##p^2## is a special operator for this problem. It's specialness is related to the definition of ##\phi_n##.
 

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