Find Minimum of $(a+b)(b+c)$ | Proof Provided

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The discussion revolves around finding the minimum value of the expression $(a+b)(b+c)$ under the constraint that $a, b,$ and $c$ are positive real numbers satisfying the condition $abc(a+b+c)=1$. The focus is on providing a proof for this minimum value.

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  • Post 1 presents the problem of finding the minimum value of $(a+b)(b+c)$ with the given constraint.
  • Post 2 reiterates the same problem statement, indicating a potential emphasis on the need for clarity or proof.
  • Post 3 expresses appreciation for a participant's involvement but does not contribute to the mathematical discussion.
  • Post 4 suggests specific values for $a$, $b$, and $c$ to explore the problem, although the values include a negative number, which may not satisfy the positivity constraint.
  • Post 5 repeats the suggestion from Post 4, indicating a lack of clarity or understanding in the discussion.

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The discussion appears to have unresolved points, particularly regarding the validity of the suggested values for $a$, $b$, and $c$, and whether they meet the problem's constraints. There is no consensus on the approach or solution presented.

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Participants have not fully addressed the implications of the positivity constraint on the values of $a$, $b$, and $c$. The repeated suggestion of negative values raises questions about the applicability of those examples.

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Find, with proof, the minimum value of $(a+b)(b+c)$ where $a,\,b$ and $c$ are positive real numbers satisfying the condition $abc(a+b+c)=1$.
 
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anemone said:
Find, with proof, the minimum value of $(a+b)(b+c)$ where $a,\,b$ and $c$ are positive real numbers satisfying the condition $abc(a+b+c)=1$.

$$(a+b)(b+c)=ab+ac+bc+b^2=ac+b(a+b+c)=ac+\dfrac{1}{ac}$$

AM-GM:

$$\dfrac{ac+\dfrac{1}{ac}}{2}\ge\sqrt{ac\cdot\dfrac{1}{ac}}=1$$

$$\implies\min\left[(a+b)(b+c)\right]=2$$
 
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greg1313 said:
$$(a+b)(b+c)=ab+ac+bc+b^2=ac+b(a+b+c)=ac+\dfrac{1}{ac}$$

AM-GM:

$$\dfrac{ac+\dfrac{1}{ac}}{2}\ge\sqrt{ac\cdot\dfrac{1}{ac}}=1$$

$$\implies\min\left[(a+b)(b+c)\right]=2$$

Awesome, greg1313! And thanks for participating!
 
greg1313 said:
$$(a+b)(b+c)=ab+ac+bc+b^2=ac+b(a+b+c)=ac+\dfrac{1}{ac}$$

AM-GM:

$$\dfrac{ac+\dfrac{1}{ac}}{2}\ge\sqrt{ac\cdot\dfrac{1}{ac}}=1$$

$$\implies\min\left[(a+b)(b+c)\right]=2$$

It has been shown that $(a+b)(b+c) >=2$ but I think it needs to be shown that $(a+b)(b+c) = 2 $ is met for at least one set of a,b,c
I am not telling that you are wrong. what I am telling is that I do not get it
 
kaliprasad said:
It has been shown that $(a+b)(b+c) >=2$ but I think it needs to be shown that $(a+b)(b+c) = 2 $ is met for at least one set of a,b,c
I am not telling that you are wrong. what I am telling is that I do not get it

[sp]I'm not clear on what it is you don't understand. However, try $a=1,b=-1+\sqrt2,c=1$.[/sp]
 
greg1313 said:
[sp]I'm not clear on what it is you don't understand. However, try $a=1,b=-1+\sqrt2,c=1$.[/sp]

Now it is clear that there is a value shown above by you which satisfies the criteria.
 

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