Find Tension in a Cable with Rotational Mass

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The discussion revolves around finding the tension in a cable connected to a free-falling cylinder with mass and radius. Participants are exploring the relationships between torque, angular acceleration, and tension in the context of rotational dynamics.

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  • Exploratory, Conceptual clarification, Mathematical reasoning

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  • Participants are attempting to apply formulas related to torque and angular acceleration, questioning how to set up the equations to find tension. There are inquiries about the definitions and assumptions regarding the free-falling cylinder and its connection to the stationary string.

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The discussion is ongoing, with participants providing insights into the forces acting on the cylinder and comparing translational and rotational dynamics. Some guidance has been offered regarding the application of Newton's laws, but there is no explicit consensus on the setup of the equations.

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There are indications of missing definitions and clarity regarding the problem setup, particularly concerning the nature of the free-falling cylinder and its rotational inertia.

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I read the rule and ran a search with no luck.

How do i find the Tension in a cable?
I got a free falling cylinder with mass m and radius r

according to the formula a=torque/inertial and the tangential force is=to torque.
the torque =inertial*r

So i got angular acceleration = F*r/(m*r) and Tension=mg-ma
 
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Please define the problem completely. Don't know what you mean by a "free falling cylinder".
 
I read the rule and ran a search with no luck.

How do i find the Tension in a cable?
I got a free falling cylinder with mass m and radius r attach to a stationary string

according to the formula angular acceleration=torque/inertial and the tangential force is=to torque.

the torque =inertial*r or m*r^3

So i got angular acceleration = F*r/(m*r) and Tension=mg-ma

How exactly do i setup this equation to find the tension?
 
sorry the rest must have timed out

A free falling cylinder is attached to a stationary string.

I got as far as torque =F*r=mgr which also equal to mr^2*angular acceleration.
The tangentail force =Tensioner which is ma , but I can't seem to put everything togather.
 
I merged the two threads that you started... (I will move this to the Intro Phys section)

Start by identifying the forces acting on the cylinder. Compare translational acceleration and rotational acceleration, applying Newton's 2nd law to each.

rtran said:
I got as far as torque =F*r=mgr which also equal to mr^2*angular acceleration.
I don't understand what you did here. What's the torque about the center of mass? What's the rotational inertia of a cylinder?
 

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