Find the average force of friction

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The problem involves calculating the average force of friction acting on a 5kg box that slides to a stop after being tossed across the floor at an initial speed of 4 m/s over a duration of 3 seconds.

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  • Exploratory, Mathematical reasoning, Assumption checking

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  • Participants discuss the relationship between force and momentum, exploring the concept of impulse and its formulas. There are attempts to clarify the use of average acceleration in calculations and the implications of keeping force as an unknown in the equations.

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The discussion is active with participants sharing various approaches to the problem. Some guidance has been provided regarding the use of impulse and the relationship between force, mass, and acceleration. Multiple interpretations of the calculations are being explored.

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Homework Statement


A 5kg box is tossed across the floor at 4 m/s and slides to a stop in 3 seconds. What is the average force of friction?

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I believe the answer is 6.66N, I found that because the problem was pulled from the book. But I am trying to understand how and why. What formula is used, so if I come across it again, I have a better understanding to figure it out.

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You can calculate the initial momentum of the box. The momentum of the box is zero when it stops moving. What formula relates force to a change in momentum?
 
Stephen Tashi said:
You can calculate the initial momentum of the box. The momentum of the box is zero when it stops moving. What formula relates force to a change in momentum?
That would be impulse, f*t
and f=m*a
so the impulse would be, (m*a)*t
impulse=(5*(4/3))*3=20
 
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keithcuda said:
That would be impulse, f*t
and f=m*a
so the impulse would be, (m*a)*t
impulse=(5*(4/3))*3=20
keithcuda said:
That would be impulse, f*t
and f=m*a
so the impulse would be, (m*a)*t
impulse=(5*(4/3))*3=20

Yes, if you use 4/3 as average acceleration. However, to solve for average F in equation for impulse, you'd do better to keep F as an unknown instead of writting it as m*a. To solve for F using F = m*a , you could claim that average force = mass * average acceleration.
 
Stephen Tashi said:
Yes, if you use 4/3 as average acceleration. However, to solve for average F in equation for impulse, you'd do better to keep F as an unknown instead of writting it as m*a. To solve for F using F = m*a , you could claim that average force = mass * average acceleration.
OK, so then I know that t=3, and I(impulse)=20, If F is unknown then F=I/T= 6.66N
 
keithcuda said:
OK, so then I know that t=3, and I(impulse)=20, If F is unknown then F=I/T= 6.66N

Yes
 
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