MHB Find the general solution of The ff. D.E

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The discussion focuses on finding the general solution for two differential equations. The first equation involves the terms (2xy - y^2 + y)dx + (3x^2 - 4xy + 3x)dy = 0, while the second is (x^2 + y^2 + 1)dx + x(x - 2y)dy = 0. Participants are attempting to determine integrating factors using partial derivatives but are encountering confusion over differentiation and whether the results are functions of just x or y. Clarifications are provided regarding the correct differentiation of the components, particularly for the first equation, leading to further exploration of the integrating factor. The conversation emphasizes the importance of accurate differentiation in solving these differential equations.
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Find the general solution of The ff. D.E

1.$\displaystyle (2xy-y^2+y)dx+(3x^2-4xy+3x)dy=0$

2. $\displaystyle (x^2+y^2+1)dx+x(x-2y)dy=0$

i tried both of them using

$\displaystyle \frac{\dfrac{\partial M}{\partial y}-\dfrac{\partial N}{\partial x}}{N}$

and

$\displaystyle \frac{\dfrac{\partial N}{\partial x}-\dfrac{\partial M}{\partial y}}{M}$

but none of them is a function of just x or just y.

can you please help me how to go about solving this problem thanks!
 
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Look at your second option again...you should find it is a function of $y$ alone. :D
 
MarkFL said:
Look at your second option again...you should find it is a function of $y$ alone. :D

what problem are you talking about? 1 or 2?
 
bergausstein said:
what problem are you talking about? 1 or 2?

I'm sorry, I am referring to the first problem. I wanted to get that one squared away before looking at the second one. :D
 
$\displaystyle \frac{\dfrac{\partial N}{\partial x}-\dfrac{\partial M}{\partial y}}{M}$

$\dfrac{\partial N}{\partial x}=-4xy$ and $\dfrac{\partial M}{\partial y}=2y$

$\frac{-4xy-2y}{2y}=y-4x$

I'm confused! help!
 
You aren't differentiating correctly:

$$\frac{\partial M}{\partial y}=2x-2y+1$$

Can you find $$\frac{\partial N}{\partial x}$$ ?
 
$\displaystyle \frac{\partial N}{\partial x}=6x-4x+3$
 
bergausstein said:
$\displaystyle \frac{\partial N}{\partial x}=6x-4x+3$

Correct! Now look again at the expression you want to use to compute your integrating factor...what do you find?
 

$\displaystyle \frac{\dfrac{\partial N}{\partial x}-\dfrac{\partial M}{\partial y}}{M}$

$\frac{6x-4x+3-(2x-2y+1)}{2xy-y^2+y}=\frac{2y+2}{2xy-y^2+1}$ there's still x here!
 
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Try the second option...
 
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both options are not a function of just x and y.

as I stated in my OP. :(
 
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Let's take a look...

$$\frac{\dfrac{\partial N}{\partial x}-\dfrac{\partial M}{\partial y}}{M}=\frac{(6x-4y+3)-(2x-2y+1)}{2xy-y^2+y}=\frac{4x-2y+2}{y(2x-y+1)}$$

Now factor the numerator...:D
 

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