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The discussion revolves around finding the greatest possible value of \(\tan B\) given the equation \(\tan B = 2015\sin A \cos A - 2015\sin^2 A \tan B\), where \(A\) and \(B\) are acute angles. The scope includes mathematical reasoning and exploration of trigonometric identities and derivatives.

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  • One participant reformulates the equation to express \(\tan B\) in terms of \(\sin A\) and \(\cos A\), leading to \(\tan B = \frac{2015\sin A\cos A}{1 + 2015\sin^2 A}\).
  • Another participant derives \(\cot B\) from the expression for \(\tan B\) and discusses the strategy of minimizing \(\cot B\) to maximize \(\tan B\), noting that \(\cot B = \frac{1 + 2015\sin^2 A}{2015\sin A\cos A}\).
  • Participants discuss the differentiation of \(\cot B\) and set the derivative to zero to find critical points, leading to the condition \(-\cos(2A) + 2015\sin^2 A = 0\).
  • It is noted that the maximum value of \(\tan B\) can be expressed as \(\frac{2015}{2\sqrt{2016}}\), with a numerical approximation provided as approximately \(22.4388\).

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There is no explicit consensus on the greatest possible value of \(\tan B\) as the discussion primarily consists of mathematical derivations and explorations without a definitive conclusion reached by all participants.

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The discussion involves assumptions about the angles being acute and the dependence on the specific value of \(n\) set to \(2015\). The mathematical steps involve differentiation and critical point analysis, which may have unresolved aspects.

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Let $A,\,B$ be acute angles such that $\tan B=2015\sin A \cos A-2015\sin^2 A \tan B$.

Find the greatest possible value of $\tan B$.
 
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anemone said:
Let $A,\,B$ be acute angles such that $\tan B=2015\sin A \cos A-2015\sin^2 A \tan B$.

Find the greatest possible value of $\tan B$.
[sp]Let $n = 2015.$ Then $\tan B(1 + n\sin^2 A) = n\sin A\cos A$. Therefore $\tan B = \dfrac{n\sin A\cos A}{1 + n\sin^2 A}$ and so $$\cot B = \frac{1 + n\sin^2 A}{n\sin A\cos A} = \frac2{n\sin (2A)} + \tan A.$$ To maximise $\tan B$ we need to minimise $\cot B$ (the reason for doing this is that $\cot B$ is easier to differentiate than $\tan B$), so let's differentiate it: $$\frac d{dA}\cot B = -\frac{4\cos(2A)}{n\sin^2(2A)} + \frac1{\cos^2 A} = \frac{-\cos(2A) + n\sin^2A}{n\sin^2A\cos^2A}.$$ That is zero when $0 = -\cos(2A) + n\sin^2A = -1 + (n+2)\sin^2A$, so that $\sin A = \dfrac1{\sqrt{n+2}}$ and $\cos A = \dfrac{\sqrt{n+1}}{\sqrt{n+2}}.$

The corresponding (maximal) value of $\tan B$ is $$\frac{\frac{n\sqrt{n+1}}{n+2}}{1 + \frac{n}{n+2}} = \frac{n\sqrt{n+1}}{2(n+1)} = \frac n{2\sqrt{n+1}}.$$ With $n=2015$ that gives the maximum value of $\tan B$ as $\dfrac{2015}{2\sqrt{2016}} = \dfrac{2015}{24\sqrt{14}} \approx 22.4388.$[/sp]
 
Opalg said:
[sp]Let $n = 2015.$ Then $\tan B(1 + n\sin^2 A) = n\sin A\cos A$. Therefore $\tan B = \dfrac{n\sin A\cos A}{1 + n\sin^2 A}$ and so $$\cot B = \frac{1 + n\sin^2 A}{n\sin A\cos A} = \frac2{n\sin (2A)} + \tan A.$$ To maximise $\tan B$ we need to minimise $\cot B$ (the reason for doing this is that $\cot B$ is easier to differentiate than $\tan B$), so let's differentiate it: $$\frac d{dA}\cot B = -\frac{4\cos(2A)}{n\sin^2(2A)} + \frac1{\cos^2 A} = \frac{-\cos(2A) + n\sin^2A}{n\sin^2A\cos^2A}.$$ That is zero when $0 = -\cos(2A) + n\sin^2A = -1 + (n+2)\sin^2A$, so that $\sin A = \dfrac1{\sqrt{n+2}}$ and $\cos A = \dfrac{\sqrt{n+1}}{\sqrt{n+2}}.$

The corresponding (maximal) value of $\tan B$ is $$\frac{\frac{n\sqrt{n+1}}{n+2}}{1 + \frac{n}{n+2}} = \frac{n\sqrt{n+1}}{2(n+1)} = \frac n{2\sqrt{n+1}}.$$ With $n=2015$ that gives the maximum value of $\tan B$ as $\dfrac{2015}{2\sqrt{2016}} = \dfrac{2015}{24\sqrt{14}} \approx 22.4388.$[/sp]

Aww Opalg! Thanks for participating in this other Olympiad Math problem from Hong Kong and your answer is of course correct! I will wait for a couple of days before posting the proposed solution.:)
 
Solution of other:
$\tan B=2015\sin A \cos A-2015\sin^2 A \tan B$

$\dfrac{\sin B}{\cos B}=2015\sin A \cos A-2015\sin^2 A \left(\dfrac{\sin B}{\cos B}\right)$

$\begin{align*}\sin B&=2015\sin A \cos A\cos B-2015\sin^2 A\sin B\\&=2015\sin A( \cos A\cos B-\sin A\sin B)\\&=2015\sin A( \cos (A+B)\\&=2015\left(\dfrac{\sin (2A+B)-\sin B}{2}\right)\end{align*}$

$\therefore \left(1+\dfrac{2015}{2}\right)\sin B=\dfrac{2015}{2}\sin (2A+B)$

And we get

$\sin B=\dfrac{2015}{2017}\sin (2A+B)$

Since $\sin B\le \dfrac{2015}{2017}$, that implies $\tan B\le \dfrac{2015}{\sqrt{2017^2-2015^2}}=\dfrac{2015}{24\sqrt{14}}$.

Equality is attained when $\sin (2A+B)=1$, that is when $2A+B$ is a right angle.
 

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