Find the measure of angle BAC.

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The discussion revolves around finding the measure of angle BAC in triangle ABC, where D is the midpoint of AB and E is a point of trisection of BC. The problem involves geometric reasoning and relationships between angles and segments within the triangle.

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  • One participant describes their initial approach using angles θ and β and applying sine and cosine rules, but encounters complex equations with many unknowns.
  • Another participant suggests drawing a line through D parallel to AE, arguing that this line passes through point F, which aids in showing that AE bisects CD.
  • Further elaboration indicates that this leads to the conclusion that angle BAC is 90 degrees, supported by a series of proportionality arguments and angle sum considerations.
  • Participants express appreciation for the guidance received, indicating a collaborative effort in solving the problem.

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While some participants propose that angle BAC is 90 degrees based on their reasoning, the discussion does not indicate a consensus on the validity of the methods used or the correctness of the conclusion.

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The discussion includes various assumptions about the geometric properties of the triangle and the relationships between the points D, E, and F, which may not be universally accepted or proven within the context of the problem.

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Hi members of the forum,

Problem:
In triangle ABC, D is the midpoint of AB and E is the point of trisection of BC nearer to C. Given that $\displaystyle \angle ADC=\angle BAE$, find $\displaystyle\angle BAC$.

I have tried to solve it using only one approach, that is by assigning $\displaystyle\theta$ and $\displaystyle\beta$ to represent the angles of CAE and ABC respectively and applied the rules of Sine and Cosine appropriately but ended up with very messy equation with many unknown values.

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It's not that I didn't try it but now I feel like I've reached a plateau and I decided to ask for help at MHB.

If anyone could give me some hints, that would be great.

Thanks in advance.
 

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Re: Find the angle of BAC.

anemone said:
Hi members of the forum,

Problem:
In triangle ABC, D is the midpoint of AB and E is the point of trisection of BC nearer to C. Given that $\displaystyle \angle ADC=\angle BAE$, find $\displaystyle\angle BAC$.

I have tried to solve it using only one approach, that is by assigning $\displaystyle\theta$ and $\displaystyle\beta$ to represent the angles of CAE and ABC respectively and applied the rules of Sine and Cosine appropriately but ended up with very messy equation with many unknown values.

https://www.physicsforums.com/attachments/630

It's not that I didn't try it but now I feel like I've reached a plateau and I decided to ask for help at MHB.

If anyone could give me some hints, that would be great.

Thanks in advance.
Let the point of trisection of $BC$ nearer to $B$ be $F$. Draw a line passing through $D$ and parallel to $AE$. Argue that this line passes through $F$. This helps you show that $AE$ bisects $CD$. Its now not very hard to figure out that $\angle BAC$ is $90$.
 
Re: Find the angle of BAC.

caffeinemachine said:
Let the point of trisection of $BC$ nearer to $B$ be $F$. Draw a line passing through $D$ and parallel to $AE$. Argue that this line passes through $F$. This helps you show that $AE$ bisects $CD$. Its now not very hard to figure out that $\angle BAC$ is $90$.

I see it now...the trick is to draw another line parallel to AE that starts from the point D to touch the line of BC.

I will show my full solution here as a way to express my appreciation for your help and guidance...

Join DM so that AE is parallel to DM.
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It follows that $\displaystyle \frac{BD}{DA}=\frac{BM}{ME}$, i.e.

$\displaystyle 1=\frac{BM}{ME}$

$\displaystyle BM=ME$ or $\displaystyle BM=ME=EC $.

It shows that M is the point of trisection of BC nearer to B.

Similarly, by applying the proportionality theorem again, we get

$\displaystyle \frac{CN}{ND}=\frac{CE}{EM}$

$\displaystyle \frac{CN}{ND}=1$

$\displaystyle CN=ND$

This gives us also the fact that $\displaystyle CN=AN$, and $\displaystyle \angle NAC=\angle NCA=\theta $

Last, by adding up all the angles of the triangle ADC and set them equal to $\displaystyle 180^\circ$, we obtain

$\displaystyle 2\theta +2\alpha=180^\circ$

$\displaystyle \theta +\alpha=90^\circ$

$\displaystyle \angle BAC=90^\circ$

Thanks a bunch, caffeinemachine!(Smile)
 

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Re: Find the angle of BAC.

anemone said:
I see it now...the trick is to draw another line parallel to AE that starts from the point D to touch the line of BC.

I will show my full solution here as a way to express my appreciation for your help and guidance...

Join DM so that AE is parallel to DM.
https://www.physicsforums.com/attachments/631

It follows that $\displaystyle \frac{BD}{DA}=\frac{BM}{ME}$, i.e.

$\displaystyle 1=\frac{BM}{ME}$

$\displaystyle BM=ME$ or $\displaystyle BM=ME=EC $.

It shows that M is the point of trisection of BC nearer to B.

Similarly, by applying the proportionality theorem again, we get

$\displaystyle \frac{CN}{ND}=\frac{CE}{EM}$

$\displaystyle \frac{CN}{ND}=1$

$\displaystyle CN=ND$

This gives us also the fact that $\displaystyle CN=AN$, and $\displaystyle \angle NAC=\angle NCA=\theta $

Last, by adding up all the angles of the triangle ADC and set them equal to $\displaystyle 180^\circ$, we obtain

$\displaystyle 2\theta +2\alpha=180^\circ$

$\displaystyle \theta +\alpha=90^\circ$

$\displaystyle \angle BAC=90^\circ$

Thanks a bunch, caffeinemachine!(Smile)
That's great. (Yes)
 

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