MHB Find the Minimum Value of a Complex Equation

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The discussion focuses on finding the minimum value of the expression (a^2/(b-1)) + (b^2/(a-1)) under the constraints a > 1 and b > 1. Participants explore various methods to solve the problem, including potential algebraic manipulations and inequalities. The conversation highlights the importance of understanding the behavior of the function as a and b approach their lower limits. Some users express appreciation for the clarity of the problem and the solutions provided. Ultimately, the goal is to derive the minimum value effectively while adhering to the given constraints.
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$a>1,b>1$

find the minimum value of

$\dfrac {a^2}{b-1}+\dfrac {b^2}{a-1}$
 
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Albert said:
$a>1,b>1$

find the minimum value of

$\dfrac {a^2}{b-1}+\dfrac {b^2}{a-1}$

Both partial derivatives have to be zero.

From those equations it follows that:
\begin{cases}2a(a-1)^2&=b^2(b-1) \\ a^2(a-1)&=2b(b-1)^2\end{cases}
Multiplying those equations gives us:
$$2a^3(a-1)^3=2b^3(b-1)^3 \Rightarrow a(a-1) = b(b-1)$$
Substitute back into the equations to find:
$$\begin{cases}2a(a-1)^2&=ab(a-1) \\ ab(b-1)&=2b(b-1)^2\end{cases}
\Rightarrow \begin{cases}2(a-1)&= b\\ a&=2(b-1)\end{cases}
\Rightarrow a = b = 2$$
The corresponding minimum value is $8$.
 
I like Serena said:
Both partial derivatives have to be zero.

From those equations it follows that:
\begin{cases}2a(a-1)^2&=b^2(b-1) \\ a^2(a-1)&=2b(b-1)^2\end{cases}
Multiplying those equations gives us:
$$2a^3(a-1)^3=2b^3(b-1)^3 \Rightarrow a(a-1) = b(b-1)$$
Substitute back into the equations to find:
$$\begin{cases}2a(a-1)^2&=ab(a-1) \\ ab(b-1)&=2b(b-1)^2\end{cases}
\Rightarrow \begin{cases}2(a-1)&= b\\ a&=2(b-1)\end{cases}
\Rightarrow a = b = 2$$
The corresponding minimum value is $8$.
very good I like Serena !
another solution:
using $AP\geq GP$
$\dfrac {a^2}{b-1}+\dfrac {b^2}{a-1}\geq 2\sqrt {\dfrac {a^2}{a-1}}\times \sqrt{\dfrac {b^2}{b-1}}--(1)$
minimum occurs when $a=b$
let:$\sqrt {\dfrac {a^2}{a-1}}=\sqrt{\dfrac {b^2}{b-1}}=k>0$
we have :$a^2=k^2(a-1)=b^2=k^2(b-1)$
$\rightarrow a^2 - k^2a+k^2=b^2-k^2b+k^2=0--(2)$
for $a,b\in R$
we must have:$k^4-4k^2\geq 0$
or $k^2(k^2-4)\geq 0,\rightarrow k\geq 2$
this implies : $ (1)\geq 2\times 2\times 2=8$
$\therefore $ the minimum of $(1)=8$
 
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