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The problem involves finding the sum of all possible values of the product \(abc\) given the equations \(25bc + 9ac + ab = 9abc\) and \(a + b + c = 9\). By substituting \(a = 5x\), \(b = 3y\), and \(c = z\), the equations simplify to a form that allows for the application of the AM-GM inequality. This leads to the conclusion that the minimum value of the expression is 18, which occurs when \(x = y = z = 1\). Consequently, the unique solution is \(a = 5\), \(b = 3\), \(c = 1\), resulting in \(abc = 15\). Thus, the sum of all possible values of \(abc\) is 15.
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$a,\,b$ and $c$ are positive real numbers such that $25bc+9ac+ab=9abc$ and $a+b+c=9$.

Find the sum of all possible values of $abc$.
 
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$a,\,b$ and $c$ are positive real numbers such that $25bc+9ac+ab=9abc$ and $a+b+c=9$.

Find the sum of all possible values of $abc$.
[sp]Let $a=5x$, $b=3y$ and $c=z$. Then (after dividing the first one by $abc$) the equations become $$\frac5x + \frac3y + \frac1z = 9, \qquad 5x + 3y + z = 9.$$ Add those, to get $5\Bigl(x+\dfrac1x\bigr) + 3\Bigl(y+\dfrac1y\bigr) + \Bigl(z+\dfrac1z\bigr) = 18.$

For $t>0$ the minimum value of $t + \dfrac1t$ is 2, attained only when $t=1$. Therefore the minimum value of $5\Bigl(x+\dfrac1x\bigr) + 3\Bigl(y+\dfrac1y\bigr) + \Bigl(z+\dfrac1z\bigr)$ is $2(5+3+1) = 18$, and this is attained only when $x=y=z=1.$ Thus the original equations have the unique solution $a=5$, $b=3$, $c=1$, with $abc = 15$.[/sp]
 
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[sp]Let $a=5x$, $b=3y$ and $c=z$. Then (after dividing the first one by $abc$) the equations become $$\frac5x + \frac3y + \frac1z = 9, \qquad 5x + 3y + z = 9.$$ Add those, to get $5\Bigl(x+\dfrac1x\bigr) + 3\Bigl(y+\dfrac1y\bigr) + \Bigl(z+\dfrac1z\bigr) = 18.$

For $t>0$ the minimum value of $t + \dfrac1t$ is 2, attained only when $t=1$. Therefore the minimum value of $5\Bigl(x+\dfrac1x\bigr) + 3\Bigl(y+\dfrac1y\bigr) + \Bigl(z+\dfrac1z\bigr)$ is $2(5+3+1) = 18$, and this is attained only when $x=y=z=1.$ Thus the original equations have the unique solution $a=5$, $b=3$, $c=1$, with $abc = 15$.[/sp]

Thanks Opalg for participating! :cool:

Solution of other:
Since $a,\,b,\,c>0$, we can divide the first equation by $abc$ and get

$\dfrac{25}{a}+\dfrac{9}{b}+\dfrac{1}{c}=9$, i.e.

Note that we can borrow and use Cauchy-Schwarz Inequality in the following manner:

$\left(\left(\dfrac{5}{\sqrt{a}}\cdot \sqrt{a}\right)+\left(\dfrac{3}{\sqrt{b}}\cdot \sqrt{b}\right)+\left(\dfrac{1}{\sqrt{c}}\cdot \sqrt{c}\right)\right)^2\le \left(\dfrac{5^2}{a}+\dfrac{3^2}{b}+\dfrac{1^2}{c}\right)(a+b+c)$

$(5+3+1)^2\le \left(\dfrac{5^2}{a}+\dfrac{3^2}{b}+\dfrac{1^2}{c}\right)(9)$

$9\le \dfrac{25}{a}+\dfrac{9}{b}+\dfrac{1}{c}$

But we are told $\dfrac{25}{a}+\dfrac{9}{b}+\dfrac{1}{c}=9$.

Therefore, equality for the Cauchy-Schwarz Inequality above holds when

$\dfrac{5^2}{a^2}=\dfrac{3^2}{b^2}=\dfrac{1^2}{c^2}$ from which we get the unique solution where

$a=5,\,b=3,\,c=1$

Hence the sum of all possible values of $abc$ is $5(3)(1)=15$.
 
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