Find the value of x1^6 +x2^6 of this quadratic equation without solving it

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The discussion revolves around finding the value of x1^6 + x2^6 for a specific quadratic equation, 25x^2 - 5√76x + 15 = 0, without directly solving it. The subject area is algebra, specifically focusing on properties of quadratic equations and their roots.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory, Assumption checking, Conceptual clarification

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • Participants discuss methods for manipulating the quadratic equation, including factoring and completing the square. There are inquiries about how to proceed without solving the equation directly, and some participants question the validity of the attempted factoring.

Discussion Status

The discussion is ongoing, with participants exploring different approaches to express the roots and their powers without arriving at a solution. Some guidance has been provided regarding the relationships between the coefficients and the roots of the quadratic equation.

Contextual Notes

There is a focus on maintaining the integrity of the equation while exploring different algebraic manipulations. Participants are encouraged to consider the implications of their methods without fully solving the equation.

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Homework Statement



Solve for [itex]x_1^6+x_2^6[/itex] for the following quadratic equation where [itex]x_1[/itex] and [itex]x_2[/itex] are the two real roots and [itex]x_1 > x_2[/itex], without solving the equation.

[itex]25x^2-5\sqrt{76}x+15=0[/itex]

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The Attempt at a Solution



I tried factoring it and I got [itex](-5x+\sqrt{19})^2-4=0[/itex]

What can I do afterwards that does not constitute as solving the equation? Thanks.
 
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Notice that 5 can be factored from the quadratic without changing the roots.

Also, you haven't truly factored the quadratic, you have merely re-written it.
 
chloe1995 said:

Homework Statement



Solve for [itex]x_1^6+x_2^6[/itex] for the following quadratic equation where [itex]x_1[/itex] and [itex]x_2[/itex] are the two real roots and [itex]x_1 > x_2[/itex], without solving the equation.

[itex]25x^2-5\sqrt{76}x+15=0[/itex]

Homework Equations


The Attempt at a Solution



I tried factoring it and I got [itex](-5x+\sqrt{19})^2-4=0[/itex]

What can I do afterwards that does not constitute as solving the equation? Thanks.
Hello chloe1995. Welcome to PF !

Suppose that x1 and x2 are the solutions to the quadratic equation, [itex]\displaystyle \ \ ax^2+bx+c=0\ .[/itex]

Then [itex]\displaystyle \ \ x_1 + x_2 = -\frac{b}{a}\ \[/itex] and [itex]\displaystyle \ \ x_1\cdot x_2=\frac{c}{a}\ .\[/itex]
 
SteamKing said:
Notice that 5 can be factored from the quadratic without changing the roots.

Also, you haven't truly factored the quadratic, you have merely re-written it.

Oops! I meant completing the square.

SammyS said:
Hello chloe1995. Welcome to PF !

Suppose that x1 and x2 are the solutions to the quadratic equation, [itex]\displaystyle \ \ ax^2+bx+c=0\ .[/itex]

Then [itex]\displaystyle \ \ x_1 + x_2 = -\frac{b}{a}\ \[/itex] and [itex]\displaystyle \ \ x_1\cdot x_2=\frac{c}{a}\ .\[/itex]

Thank you.
 
So, Have you managed to solve the problem?
 

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