Find which nitrate has the lowest pH

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Discussion Overview

The discussion revolves around determining which nitrate compound among several options has the lowest pH when dissolved in solution. Participants explore the relationship between metal ions, hydroxide formation, and pH levels, engaging in a mix of theoretical reasoning and practical application related to acid-base chemistry.

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Main Points Raised

  • One participant suggests that the dissociation of metal ions from nitrates will affect the pH based on the charge of the metal ion and its interaction with water.
  • Another participant introduces the concept of hydroxide formation from metal ions, indicating that a higher charge on the metal ion could lead to a greater concentration of H+ ions, thus lowering the pH.
  • Some participants propose that the oxidation number of the metal could be a determining factor in identifying acidic behavior.
  • A participant expresses confusion over the notation used in the chemical equations and seeks clarification on the relationship between metal ions and hydroxide ions.
  • One participant concludes that Al(NO3)3 would result in the lowest pH due to its +3 charge leading to more H+ ions compared to KNO3, which only produces one H+ ion.
  • Another participant cautions that the conclusions drawn may not be definitive without consulting solubility or stability constant tables, indicating uncertainty in the reasoning presented.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants exhibit a mix of agreement and disagreement regarding the factors influencing pH in nitrate solutions. While some support the idea that Al(NO3)3 leads to a lower pH, others express uncertainty and highlight the need for further clarification and validation of the claims made.

Contextual Notes

There are unresolved assumptions regarding the behavior of metal ions in solution and the specific conditions under which the pH is measured. The discussion also reflects a lack of consensus on the methodology for determining the lowest pH among the nitrates.

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Homework Statement



Which solution will have the lowest pH?
a) Mg(NO3)2
b) Ca(NO3)2
c) Al(NO3)3
d) KNO3
e) Zn(NO3)2

Homework Equations



None I know of.

The Attempt at a Solution



My reasoning was that when the metal dissociates from the nitrate, it will leave a negative charge on the nitrate. I need to find which one will have the lowest pH, so I figured that the KNO3 would dissociate and leave the NO3 with 1 negative charge, which would only attract 1 hydrogen ion, leaving the least amount of OH ions, meaning the solution would have a lower pH than the other ones, since they would dissociate and attract more hydrogens, leaving more OH ions, which would cause the pH to be higher.
But apparently that's not the case.

So I'm stumped. Please help.
 
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Men+ + mH2O <=> Me(OH)m(n-m)+ + mH+
 
Borek said:
Men+ + mH2O <=> Me(OH)m(n-m)+ + mH+

I don't understand.
 
leroyjenkens said:
I don't understand.

Borek wanted to convey that the metal ions would form hydroxides through reaction with water.

The metal ion which would use more OH- will result in increased concentration of H+. (H2O <=> OH-+H+)
 
See which one gives,more
H3O+
H+

Lowest pH means acids
 
I learned weeks ago, that you can find it by oxidation number. If I remember clearly below number the metal has, it's acid
 
Is the the answer KNO3?
 
Bandarigoda said:
I learned weeks ago, that you can find it by oxidation number. If I remember clearly below number the metal has, it's acid

No.

Bandarigoda said:
Is the the answer KNO3?

No.
 
Borek said:
No.
No.

As usually I suck at chemistry. Could u explain more easy way to determine it? Sorry for my English
 
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Pranav-Arora said:
Borek wanted to convey that the metal ions would form hydroxides through reaction with water.

The metal ion which would use more OH- will result in increased concentration of H+. (H2O <=> OH-+H+)

Oh, I was confused what Me and m were for. I guess m was just used as a variable and Me stands for metal.

So the opposite of what I thought was true. When the Al(NO3)3 dissociates, that leaves an Al with a +3 charge, which will bond to 3 OH, which will leave 3 H cations. For the one I chose, K will only bond to 1 OH, leaving just 1 H cation, which will have a higher pH. So the lowest pH will be the Al(NO3)3.

Thanks guys.
 
  • #12
leroyjenkens said:
Oh, I was confused what Me and m were for. I guess m was just used as a variable and Me stands for metal.

Yes, Me is a metal, and m, n are just some integeres.

So the opposite of what I thought was true. When the Al(NO3)3 dissociates, that leaves an Al with a +3 charge, which will bond to 3 OH, which will leave 3 H cations. For the one I chose, K will only bond to 1 OH, leaving just 1 H cation, which will have a higher pH. So the lowest pH will be the Al(NO3)3.

Beware - these are all equilibrium reactions. It doesn't mean these reactions proceed to an end, so your conclusion is not necessarily correct. TBH without consulting solubility/stability constant tables I am not sure what is the correct answer here.
 

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