MHB Finding $a$ and $b$ for $f(x)=|\lg (x+1)|$

  • Thread starter Thread starter anemone
  • Start date Start date
Click For Summary
The discussion revolves around finding the values of real numbers $a$ and $b$ such that $b > a$, given the function $f(x) = |\lg(x+1)|$. The conditions state that $f(a) = f\left(-\frac{b+1}{b+2}\right)$ and $f(10a + 6b + 21) = 4\lg 2$. Participants are attempting to solve for $a$ and $b$, but initial guesses, such as $a = 0$ and $b = -1$, are incorrect. The thread emphasizes the need for accurate calculations to satisfy the function's properties and the specified conditions. The search for the correct values continues among the contributors.
anemone
Gold Member
MHB
POTW Director
Messages
3,851
Reaction score
115
Suppose $f(x)=|\lg (x+1)|$ and real numbers $a$ and $b$ where $b>a$ satisfy $f(a)=f\left(-\dfrac{b+1}{b+2}\right)$ and $f(10a+6b+21)=4\lg 2$.

Find the values of $a$ and $b$.
 
Mathematics news on Phys.org
anemone said:
Suppose $f(x)=|\lg (x+1)|$ and real numbers $a$ and $b$ where $b>a$ satisfy $f(a)=f\left(-\dfrac{b+1}{b+2}\right)$ and $f(10a+6b+21)=4\lg 2$.

Find the values of $a$ and $b$.
[sp]is the answer a=0 b=-1[/sp]
 
Sorry, solakis, those are not the values for $a$ and $b$.
 
If $f(x)=f(y)$ then $\log(x+1) =\pm \log(y+1)$. Apart from the obvious solution $y=x$, that has the solution $y+1 = \dfrac1{x+1}$. Given that $f(a) = f\left(-\dfrac{b+1}{b+2}\right)$, it follows that either $-\dfrac{b+1}{b+2}=a$ or $-\dfrac{b+1}{b+2}+1 = \dfrac1{a+1}$. The second of those two possibilities leads to solakis's suggestion $a=0$, $b=-1$, which would be a solution apart from the fact that it does not satisfy the condition $b>a$.

So we have to look at the possibility $a = - \dfrac{b+1}{b+2}$. The equation $f(10a+6b+21) = 4\log2$ then says that $\log\left(-\tfrac{10(b+1)}{b+2} + 6b + 22\right) = \pm\log16$. Therefore $-\tfrac{10(b+1)}{b+2} + 6b + 22 = 16 $ or $\tfrac1{16}$.

If $-\tfrac{10(b+1)}{b+2} + 6b + 22 = 16 $ then $(b+1)\bigl(-10+ 6(b+2)\bigl) = 0$. That again has the unwanted solution $b=-1$, but it also has the solution $b+2 = \frac{10}6$, from which $b=-\frac13$. The corresponding value of $a$ is $-\frac25$.

(There was also the possibility that possibility that the equation $-\tfrac{10(b+1)}{b+2} + 6b + 22 = \tfrac1{16} $ might lead to a solution. But in fact that equation has no real solutions.) So the solution is $\boxed{a=-\dfrac25,\ b=-\dfrac13}$.
 
Insights auto threads is broken atm, so I'm manually creating these for new Insight articles. In Dirac’s Principles of Quantum Mechanics published in 1930 he introduced a “convenient notation” he referred to as a “delta function” which he treated as a continuum analog to the discrete Kronecker delta. The Kronecker delta is simply the indexed components of the identity operator in matrix algebra Source: https://www.physicsforums.com/insights/what-exactly-is-diracs-delta-function/ by...

Similar threads

  • · Replies 2 ·
Replies
2
Views
1K
  • · Replies 1 ·
Replies
1
Views
1K
  • · Replies 6 ·
Replies
6
Views
1K
  • · Replies 2 ·
Replies
2
Views
1K
  • · Replies 3 ·
Replies
3
Views
2K
  • · Replies 10 ·
Replies
10
Views
1K
  • · Replies 2 ·
Replies
2
Views
1K
  • · Replies 3 ·
Replies
3
Views
1K
  • · Replies 2 ·
Replies
2
Views
1K
Replies
2
Views
1K