Finding a formula for the following summation

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The discussion revolves around finding a formula for the summation of squares, specifically n^2 + (n-2)^2 + ... The participants express confusion over how to determine when to terminate the sum, noting that it depends on the value of n. There is mention of using induction to derive a hypothesis, but uncertainty remains about forming a proper one. The conversation also clarifies that the terms in the sum will not be negative, as they are squared, but rather the stopping point is when n - 2k becomes negative. Overall, the thread highlights the challenges in deriving a general formula for the summation based on varying n values.
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[itex] n^2 + (n-2)^2 + (n-4)^2...[/itex]
where n is a natural number
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When are you going to terminate the sum?
 
PeroK said:
When are you going to terminate the sum?

The sum terminating depends on n. I don't know how to come up with a general formula for all n though
 
rxh140630 said:
The sum terminating depends on n. I don't know how to come up with a general formula for all n though
You mean you stop before the terms get negative.
 
PeroK said:
You mean you stop before the terms get negative.
Yes. I'm assuming you're hinting at induction but the trouble is I can't think of a proper hypothesis in the first place..
 
rxh140630 said:
Yes. I'm assuming you're hinting at induction but the trouble is I can't think of a proper hypothesis in the first place..
I haven't thought about it. From what you say, you want either:
$$1 + 9 + 25 + \dots + (2k+1)^2$$
Or
$$4 + 16 + \dots + (2k)^2$$
 
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PeroK said:
You mean you stop before the terms get negative.
None of the terms will be negative, since they are squared quantities. I'm sure you meant something more like stopping before n - 2k gets negative.
 

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