Finding a general soution to a differential equation

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The discussion revolves around finding a general solution to a differential equation, specifically when the solution is a constant. Participants explore methods for solving ordinary differential equations (ODEs) and clarify concepts related to the method of undetermined coefficients.

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Main Points Raised

  • One participant asks how to find a general solution to a differential equation when the answer is a constant, seeking clarification and examples.
  • Another participant states that the general solution to the equation dy/dx = 0 is y = an arbitrary constant, prompting others to specify the equation they are trying to solve.
  • A participant presents the specific equation y'' - 4y' = 4 and outlines a method to solve it using a classical approach, leading to the solution y = A*exp(4x) - x + B, where A and B are constants.
  • There is a discussion about whether the method used is the method of undetermined coefficients, with participants confirming its applicability and discussing the characteristic equation.
  • Participants detail the steps to solve the homogeneous equation and find a particular solution, emphasizing the combination of solutions to arrive at the general solution.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants generally agree on the method of solving the differential equation and the steps involved, but there is no explicit consensus on the initial question regarding the general solution when the answer is a constant, as it is framed as a request for clarification rather than a settled point.

Contextual Notes

Some participants express confusion about the simplicity of the solution, indicating potential assumptions or misunderstandings about the methods being discussed. The discussion does not resolve all aspects of the initial question regarding constant solutions.

Who May Find This Useful

This discussion may be useful for students or individuals seeking to understand methods for solving ordinary differential equations, particularly those involving constant solutions and the method of undetermined coefficients.

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How do I find a general solution to a differential equation when the answer is a constant?
 
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How do I find a general solution to a differential equation when the answer is a constant?
The answer of what question ? Give an axample.
 
y = an arbitrary constant is the general solution to dy/dx = 0

Tell us what equation you are trying to solve, if you want more help.
 
Something along the lines of y'' - 4y' = 4
 
y'' - 4y' = 4
z = y'
z' - 4z = 4
No difficulty to solve this ODE, thanks to classical method.
z = C* exp(4x) -1
C = constant
Then, the primitives of z(x) :

y = A*exp(4x) - x + B

B = constant ; A = C/4 = constant.
 
Wow thank you so much.. I was confusing myself and thinking it seemed a little too easy.

Also is this the method of undetermined coefficients?
 
Yes, it is. Since r= 0 is a solution to the characteristice equation [itex]e^{0x}= 1[/itex], a constant, is already a solution so you, instead of trying a constant to get the "4" on the right, you multiply by x and try y= Ax. y'= A, y''= 0 so the equation becomes
-4A= 4 and A= -1. That is where the "-x" in the solution came from.
 
Also is this the method of undetermined coefficients?
I suppose that your question is about solving z' - 4z = 4

First, solve the homogeneous equation Z' - 4Z = 0
dZ/dx = 4Z
dZ/Z = 4 dx
ln(Z) = 4x +c
(c = constant)
Z = exp(4x+c)
Z = C*exp(4x)
C = exp(c) = constant

Second, find a particular solution of z' - 4z = 4
z = -1 is obiously a particular solution.

Third, add the pareticular solution to the solutions of the homogeneous equation :
z = Z+(-1)
z = C*exp(4x) -1
This is a well-known way to solve an EDO such as z' - 4z = 4
 
THANK YOU! This is so helpful :D
 

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