Finding Charges in Battery for 5 Seconds

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The problem involves a battery with an e.m.f of 12V that provides an electrical energy of 500J, and participants are tasked with determining the amount of charge flowing in the battery over a period of 5 seconds.

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  • Exploratory, Conceptual clarification, Assumption checking

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  • Participants discuss the relationship between voltage, work, and charge, with some suggesting that the question may not clearly specify the role of the 5 seconds. There is confusion regarding whether the energy provided is total energy or power over time.

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The discussion is ongoing, with participants exploring different interpretations of the question and questioning the clarity of the information provided. Some guidance has been offered regarding the calculations, but no consensus has been reached on the correct approach.

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There is uncertainty about the meaning of the 5 seconds in the context of the problem, and participants are questioning whether the original question was accurately presented.

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Homework Statement


The e.m.f of a battery is 12V and provides an electrical energy of 500J. What is the amount of charges flowing in the battery for 5 seconds?

2. The attempt at a solution

Since V=W/Q, rearranging the equation gives you Q=W/V:

Q= 500/12 = 41.6666667 C

But, I don't know what is the 5 seconds for. So, I just put 41.6666667 C as the answer and I got it wrong.
 
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Hi Kyoma! :smile:
Kyoma said:
Since V=W/Q …

nooo :redface:, V = W/I

(watts = volts times amps :wink:)​
 
My 'W' is work done and 'Q' is amount of charge?
 
Kyoma said:
My 'W' is work done and 'Q' is amount of charge?

ohh!
Kyoma said:
… provides an electrical energy of 500J.

are you sure the question says that?

the question would normally give the power of a battery, not the (total stored?) energy :confused:
 
Yeah. :(
 
Kyoma,did you post the actual question or did you change the wording?
 
Hello tiny-tim. I'm assuming that the energy is provided in a time period of 5 seconds but the question as presented above does not make that clear.
 
I posted the actual question.

My answer is correct. My professor marked it wrong.
 
Kyomo,a 12V battery transfers 12J of energy to every coulomb of charge that passes through it so 500 J would be transferred to a charge of 500/12=41.7C.This is the answer you got but the question asks for something different, it asks how much charge flows in 5 seconds.
The question does not make sense and needs clarifying.
 
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Kyoma said:

Homework Statement


The e.m.f of a battery is 12V and provides an electrical energy of 500J. What is the amount of charges flowing in the battery for 5 seconds?

2. The attempt at a solution

Since V=W/Q, rearranging the equation gives you Q=W/V:

Q= 500/12 = 41.6666667 C

But, I don't know what is the 5 seconds for. So, I just put 41.6666667 C as the answer and I got it wrong.

tiny-tim said:
Hi Kyoma! :smile:nooo :redface:, V = W/I

(watts = volts times amps :wink:)​

Kyoma said:
I posted the actual question.

My answer is correct. My professor marked it wrong.
You are correct , Kyoma .
But Tiny Tim is also not wrong .
He conceptually refers to the work done by a unit charge in t seconds .

http://www.csgnetwork.com/ohmslaw2.html"V=12 V
W=500 J
T= 5 s

So

W = VxI
500 = 12 x Q/t ( since I=Q/t)
500 = 12 x q/5
2500 = 12Q
Q=208.33 C

Is this the answer ? Your professor hasn't marked it wrong .:wink:

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W work done on Q charge in T sec .
So On 1 unit of charge work done will be w/q

so it will do more work in t sec so final formula will be :

V=WT/Q

:wink:Hey By sheer logic , Kyoma what you do is you multiply your answer by 5 , ie
41.6666667x5 = 208.5 (approximately).^_^
 
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