Finding complex solution to quadratic equation

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The discussion revolves around finding the complex solutions to a quadratic equation of the form z^2 + α z + β = 0, given one solution as z = 1 + i. Participants are tasked with determining the other solution and the values of α and β.

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  • Exploratory, Conceptual clarification, Mathematical reasoning

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • Participants explore the relationship between the roots of the quadratic equation and their conjugates. Some discuss using simultaneous equations to eliminate unknowns, while others suggest expanding the factors of the quadratic to find coefficients.

Discussion Status

There is ongoing exploration of algebraic methods to derive the coefficients α and β. Some participants have provided guidance on using the properties of quadratic equations and the relationship between roots, but no consensus on the final values has been reached.

Contextual Notes

Participants note the challenge of working with two unknowns and the requirement for real coefficients in the quadratic equation. There is mention of algebraic mistakes and the need for careful expansion of expressions.

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Homework Statement



A (complex) solution to the quadratic equation of the form
z^2 + α z + β = 0, is z = 1 + i.
(where α and β are real numerical constants),

Write down the other solution and hence determine the values of α and β.

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this question had me staring at it for a while since it has 2 unknown. I am thinking that i have to use some kind of simultaneous equation method but i don't have 2 equations.
How do i get rid of one of the unknowns or is there another way to solving this

i still got it wrong not sure what it is i did wong but here's what i did

z=1+i , z=1-i

a=α and B=β
therefore

(1+i)^2 +a(1+i)+B=(1-i)^2 +a(1-i)+B
(1+i)^2 - (1-i)^2= a(1-i) - a(1+i)
4i+2i^2=-2ai
2i(2+i)=-2ai
a=-2-i

question asks for a real solution my 1s still imaginary :|
 
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i jus found out that another solution to this quadratic is its conjugate...if that helps ^^
 
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If z = c is a root of the (complex) quadratic equation
[tex]z^2 + \alpha z + \beta = 0[/tex]
then (z - c) must be a factor of the quadratic.

You have the two solutions,
z = 1 + i and z = 1 - i. So that means that
[tex]z^2 + \alpha z + \beta = [z - (1 + i)][z - (1 - i)][/tex]
. Expand the right-hand side and equate the corresponding coefficients to find α and β.
 
*edit* Sniped and with tex, eumyang is correct
 
so i expanded the RHS and got

a=2
B= 1-i^2=2

is that correct?
 
adichy said:
i jus found out that another solution to this quadratic is its conjugate...if that helps ^^

Tip: this is always the case. Can anyone come up with a more precise statement of this theorem?
 
eumyang said:
If z = c is a root of the (complex) quadratic equation
[tex]z^2 + \alpha z + \beta = 0[/tex]
then (z - c) must be a factor of the quadratic.

You have the two solutions,
z = 1 + i and z = 1 - i. So that means that
[tex]z^2 + \alpha z + \beta = [z - (1 + i)][z - (1 - i)][/tex]
. Expand the right-hand side and equate the corresponding coefficients to find α and β.
Exactly right. And notice that this can be written [itex][(z-1)- i][(z-1)+ i][/itex]
the product a "sum and difference" which makes it especially easy to evaluate:
[itex](a- b)(a+ b)= a^2- b^2[/itex]
 
adichy said:
so i expanded the RHS and got

a=2
B= 1-i^2=2

is that correct?

b is, but not a. I think you have a mistake in your algebra somewhere.

HallsofIvy said:
Exactly right. And notice that this can be written [itex][(z-1)- i][(z-1)+ i][/itex]
the product a "sum and difference" which makes it especially easy to evaluate, so one could use this:
[itex](a- b)(a+ b)= a^2- b^2[/itex]

Nice one. The precalculus book I use in my class actually gives a formula for this type of expansion:
[tex][x - (a + bi)][x - (a - bi)] = x^2 - 2ax + (a^2 + b^2)[/tex]
 

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