Finding distance traveled....? Mechanics questions

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The discussion revolves around a mechanics problem involving a point mass constrained to move in one dimension under the influence of a time-dependent force. The force is expressed as F[x](t)=ƒ[o]+αt+βt^2, where ƒo, α, and β are constants. Participants are tasked with finding the velocity at a later time t[f] and the distance traveled from t=0 to t=t[f].

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  • Exploratory, Conceptual clarification, Mathematical reasoning

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  • Participants discuss the relationship between force, mass, and acceleration, noting that acceleration is not constant in this scenario. There is an attempt to express velocity in terms of force and mass, leading to questions about integrating acceleration to find velocity. Some participants express confusion about how to integrate a changing acceleration and the evaluation of t[f].

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The discussion is ongoing, with participants exploring different interpretations of the problem and the implications of non-constant acceleration. Guidance has been offered regarding the need to integrate acceleration to find velocity, but there remains uncertainty about the integration process and the evaluation of variables.

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Participants are grappling with the implications of the problem's setup, particularly regarding the nature of acceleration and the integration of functions. There is a mention of calculus knowledge, indicating a potential gap in understanding how to approach the integration required for the problem.

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Homework Statement


A point mass,m, is constrained to move in one-dimension and is acted on buy a force that depends on time in the following way:
F[x](t)=ƒ[o]+αt+βt^2
where ƒo,α, and β are constants . In terms of the quantities given, answer the following:
If the object starts off at rest at t=0, find its velocity at a later time, t[f]
Find the distance the mass has traveled from t=0 to t=t[f]

Homework Equations


v=at
F=ma

The Attempt at a Solution


I believe I found the velocity at t[f] by, having
a=F/m then
v=(F/m)t
and for t[f]
v[f]=((ƒ[o]+αt[f]+βt[f]^2)/(m))*t[f]but from there, I'm kinda stuck.
I know that the distance must be the integral of the velocity, but, with velocity changing, how can I find the integral?
Or is there perhaps another way?
 
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ztalira said:

Homework Statement


A point mass,m, is constrained to move in one-dimension and is acted on buy a force that depends on time in the following way:
F[x](t)=ƒ[o]+αt+βt^2
where ƒo,α, and β are constants . In terms of the quantities given, answer the following:
If the object starts off at rest at t=0, find its velocity at a later time, t[f]
Find the distance the mass has traveled from t=0 to t=t[f]

Homework Equations


v=at
F=ma

The Attempt at a Solution


I believe I found the velocity at t[f] by, having
a=F/m then
v=(F/m)t
and for t[f]
v[f]=((ƒ[o]+αt[f]+βt[f]^2)/(m))*t[f]but from there, I'm kinda stuck.
I know that the distance must be the integral of the velocity, but, with velocity changing, how can I find the integral?
Or is there perhaps another way?
You're partially correct.
v = at only when a = constant. Is a = constant here?
 
SteamKing said:
You're partially correct.
v = at only when a = constant. Is a = constant here?

a is not a constant, meaning my answer of v[f] is wrong. I could find dv/dt for t[f], but that would only give me the acceleration at that time. How could I find, then, the final velocity at t[f]?
 
ztalira said:
a is not a constant, meaning my answer of v[f] is wrong. I could find dv/dt for t[f], but that would only give me the acceleration at that time. How could I find, then, the final velocity at t[f]?
Since a = dv / dt, you'll have to integrate acceleration to find velocity.
 
SteamKing said:
Since a = dv / dt, you'll have to integrate acceleration to find velocity.
ok. so,
Fx(0)=f[o]
Fx=ma
a=f[o]/m (let this be the first acceleration, or a[1])
and for t=t[f]
Fx(tf)=f[o]+αt[f]+βt[f]^2
Fx=ma
a=(f[o]+αt[f]+βt[f]^2)/m (let this be acceleration #2, or a[2])
Δa=a[2]-a[1]
Δa=(1/m)(αt[f]+βt[f]^2)
So, I integrate Δa with respect to t?
but, the boundaries for the integral would be (0.t[f])?
I'm confused with how to integrate this, or how to evaluate t[f] (either as a value or variable)?
 
ztalira said:
ok. so,
Fx(0)=f[o]
Fx=ma
a=f[o]/m (let this be the first acceleration, or a[1])
and for t=t[f]
Fx(tf)=f[o]+αt[f]+βt[f]^2
Fx=ma
a=(f[o]+αt[f]+βt[f]^2)/m (let this be acceleration #2, or a[2])
Δa=a[2]-a[1]
Δa=(1/m)(αt[f]+βt[f]^2)
So, I integrate Δa with respect to t?
but, the boundaries for the integral would be (0.t[f])?
I'm confused with how to integrate this, or how to evaluate t[f] (either as a value or variable)?
Have you studied calculus any? Do you know how to integrate a function of a single variable?
 

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