MHB Finding Extrema under Constraints

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The discussion focuses on finding critical points of the function f(x1, x2) = x1x2 under the constraint 2x1 + x2 = b using Lagrange multipliers. The solution yields a critical point at (b/4, b/2), which is identified as a saddle point through the second derivative test. However, when considering the boundary condition, a different method shows that this point is actually a maximum, with a maximum value of b^2/8. Participants clarify that the second partial derivative test does not account for the constraint, emphasizing the importance of checking boundaries when dealing with inequalities. The conversation concludes with an acknowledgment of this critical distinction in optimization under constraints.
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Hey! :o

I want to find the critical points of the function $f(x_1, x_2)=x_1x_2$ under the constraint $2x_1+x_2=b$.

Using the method of Lagrange multipliers I got the following:

\begin{equation*}L(x_1,x_2,\lambda )=x_1x_2-\lambda \cdot \left (2x_1+x_2-b\right )\end{equation*}

\begin{align*}&L_{x_1}(x_1,x_2,\lambda)=0 \Rightarrow x_2-2\lambda=0 \\ & L_{x_2}(x_1,x_2,\lambda)=0 \Rightarrow x_1-\lambda=0 \\ & L_{\lambda}(x_1,x_2,\lambda)=0 \Rightarrow -\left (2x_1+x_2-b\right )=0\end{align*}

Solving this system we get the solution: $${x_1}_0=\frac{b}{4}, \ {x_2}_0=\frac{b}{2}$$

So, the critical point is $\left (\frac{b}{4}, \frac{b}{2}\right )$, i.e., at this point there might be an extrema. To check what extrema (if we have) it is we do the following:
\begin{align*}&f_{x_1} =x_2 \\ & f_{x_2}=x_1 \\ & f_{x_1x_1}=0 \\ & f_{x_1x_2}=1 \\ & f_{x_2x_2}=0\end{align*}

Then: \begin{equation*}f_{x_1x_2}\left (\frac{b}{4}, \frac{b}{2}\right )=1>0 \ \text{ and } \ f_{x_1x_1}\left (\frac{b}{4}, \frac{b}{2}\right )f_{x_2x_2}\left (\frac{b}{4}, \frac{b}{2}\right )-\left (f_{x_1x_2}\left (\frac{b}{4}, \frac{b}{2}\right )\right )^2=0\cdot 0-1=-1<0\end{equation*}

Therefore, $\left (\frac{b}{4}, \frac{b}{2}\right )$ is a saddle point.

Is this correct?

Because at Wolfram there are some maxima. (Wondering)
Using the reduction method we have the following:
$2x_1+x_2=b \Rightarrow x_2=b-2x_1$.

\begin{align*}&f(x_1, x_2)=x_1x_2 \\ & h(x_1)=f(x_1, b-2x_1)=x_1\cdot (b-2x_1)=bx_1-2x_1^2\end{align*}

The first derivative is \begin{equation*}\frac{dh}{dx_1}=b-4x_1\end{equation*}

The roots of the first derivative are \begin{equation*}\frac{dh}{dx_1}=0 \Rightarrow b-4x_1=0 \Rightarrow x_1=\frac{b}{4}\end{equation*}

So, the critical point of $h(x_1)$ is $x_1=\frac{b}{4}$.

Therefore, the critical point for $f(x_1, x_2)$ is \begin{equation*}(x_1, x_2)=\left (\frac{b}{4}, b-2x_1\right )=\left (\frac{b}{4}, b-2\cdot \frac{b}{4}\right )=\left (\frac{b}{4}, b- \frac{b}{2}\right )=\left (\frac{b}{4}, \frac{b}{2}\right )\end{equation*}

The second deivative is \begin{equation*}\frac{d^2h}{dx_1^2}=-4<0\end{equation*}

So, at $x_1=\frac{b}{4}$ the function $h(x_1)$ has a maximum.

Therefore, the function $f(x_1, x_2)$ has a maximum at \begin{equation*} \left (\frac{b}{4}, \frac{b}{2}\right )\end{equation*}

The maximum is equal to \begin{equation*}f\left (\frac{b}{4}, \frac{b}{2}\right )=\frac{b}{4}\cdot \frac{b}{2}=\frac{b^2}{8}\end{equation*} Why do we get, using that method, a maximum, and by the other one a saddle point? (Wondering)
 
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Hey mathmari! (Smile)

When we do the second partial derivative test, we're only looking at $f(x,y)=xy$, which has indeed only a saddle point.
However, when we take the boundary condition into account, that changes, and we find a maximum.
 
I like Serena said:
When we do the second partial derivative test, we're only looking at $f(x,y)=xy$, which has indeed only a saddle point.
However, when we take the boundary condition into account, that changes, and we find a maximum.

So, using the second partial derivative test we are not taking into considertaion the boundary of the domain?

Does this mean that when we have a constraint with inequalities we have to check always also the boundary?

(Wondering)
 
mathmari said:
So, using the second partial derivative test we are not taking into considertaion the boundary of the domain?

Correct. Note that we're only using the second derivatives of $f$, and we do not use $2x_1+x_2=b$.

mathmari said:
Does this mean that when we have a constraint with inequalities we have to check always also the boundary?

Yes! (Nod)
 
I like Serena said:
Correct. Note that we're only using the second derivatives of $f$, and we do not use $2x_1+x_2=b$.Yes! (Nod)

Ah ok. I see! Thank you very much! (Mmm)
 

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