Finding k values for non-zero solutions in integral equations?

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The discussion centers around finding values of k for which a specific integral equation has non-zero solutions. The equation in question involves the integral of a product of sine functions and an unknown function u(y), and participants explore methods to derive k and representative solutions.

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Main Points Raised

  • One participant presents the integral equation and their initial approach, defining c_1 and c_2 based on integrals of u(y).
  • Another participant suggests that additional information about u(x) might be necessary to proceed.
  • A later reply reiterates the expression for u(x) in terms of c_1 and c_2 and prompts the original poster to substitute this back into the integral equation.
  • Further calculations lead to a derived relationship between c_1, c_2, and k, suggesting that k could be ±π based on the resulting equations.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants generally agree on the approach to substitute u(x) back into the original equation, but there is some uncertainty about whether additional information about u(x) is required. The final value of k as ±π is presented as a solution by one participant, but it is not clear if all participants accept this conclusion.

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There may be missing assumptions regarding the properties of u(y) or the conditions under which the integral equation holds. The discussion does not resolve whether the derived values of k are the only solutions or if other values might exist.

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Hi, I have the next question from Pipkin's textbook on Integral Equations:

question 9, page 10:
Find the values of k for which the following equation has solutions that aren't identically zero. If k\neq 0, find representative solutions:\int_{-\pi}^{\pi} \sin(x+y)u(y)dy = ku(x)

What I have done so far is the following:denote by c_1=\int \cos(y)u(y)dy,\ c_2=\int \sin(y)u(y)dy
so we have:c_1\sin(x)+c_2 \cos(x)=ku(x), so I found represntaive solutions, but how do I find the values of k?Thanks in advance.
 
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I think something is missing maybe the value of u(x) at some points ?
 
Alan said:
Hi, I have the next question from Pipkin's textbook on Integral Equations:

question 9, page 10:
Find the values of k for which the following equation has solutions that aren't identically zero. If k\neq 0, find representative solutions:\int_{-\pi}^{\pi} \sin(x+y)u(y)dy = ku(x)

What I have done so far is the following:denote by c_1=\int \cos(y)u(y)dy,\ c_2=\int \sin(y)u(y)dy
so we have:c_1\sin(x)+c_2 \cos(x)=ku(x), so I found represntaive solutions, but how do I find the values of k?Thanks in advance.

Hi Alan! :)

You have c_1\sin(x)+c_2 \cos(x)=ku(x)
So u(x) = \frac 1 k (c_1\sin(x)+c_2 \cos(x))
Have you tried to substitute that into your original equation?
 
I like Serena said:
Hi Alan! :)

You have c_1\sin(x)+c_2 \cos(x)=ku(x)
So u(x) = \frac 1 k (c_1\sin(x)+c_2 \cos(x))
Have you tried to substitute that into your original equation?
And then what do I get? I get the following:

$$\int_{-\pi}^{\pi}\sin(x+y)(c_1\sin y+c_2\cos y)/k dy = c_1\sin x + c_2 \cos x = ((c_1\cos x )\pi+(c_2\sin x)\pi)/k$$

How to procceed from there?

Edit:
We should have: $c_1 \pi/k = c_2 , c_2\pi /k= c_1$, which means that: $(\pi/k)^2 =1$, i.e $k=\pm \pi$.

Thanks I solved it now... :-D
 

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