Finding mixture concentration using Beer's Law

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Discussion Overview

The discussion revolves around calculating the concentrations of para-aminobenzoic acid (PABA) and nicotinic acid in a mixture using Beer's Law, based on given absorbance values at two different wavelengths. The scope includes homework-related problem-solving and mathematical reasoning.

Discussion Character

  • Homework-related
  • Mathematical reasoning

Main Points Raised

  • One participant presents a homework problem involving absorbance measurements and seeks to find the concentrations of PABA and nicotinic acid in a mixture using Beer's Law.
  • Another participant suggests taking a ratio of known concentrations at their respective wavelengths to solve for the unknown concentrations, indicating that Beer's Law is a linear relationship in this context.
  • A further participant proposes calculating molar absorptivity values separately for the two substances at the two wavelengths to create two equations in two unknowns for the mixture.
  • There is confusion expressed by one participant regarding how to apply the suggested ratio method for solving the problem.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants do not reach a consensus on the method to solve the problem, as there are multiple approaches suggested and some confusion remains regarding the application of these methods.

Contextual Notes

Participants mention the need for calculations involving molar absorptivity and ratios, but the discussion does not resolve the specific mathematical steps or assumptions required for these calculations.

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Homework Statement


A 0.0450 M solution of para-aminobenzoic acid had an absorbance of 0.844 at 267 nm in a 1.00 cm cuvet, and an absorbance of 0.034 at 240 nm. A 0.0366 M solution of nicotinic acid had absorbances of 0.010 and 0.755 at 267 and 240 nm, respectively. A MIXTURE of PABA and nicotinic acid had absorbances of 0.552 and 0.403 at 267 and 240 nm, respectively. Calculate the concentration of PABA and nicotinic acid in the mixture.

Homework Equations


A = ebC

A = absorbance
b = path length
C = concentration
e = molar absorptivity

The Attempt at a Solution


I've tried, but I can't figure it out. If I try to use Beer's Law individually on the two absorbance values, then I get 2 concentration values for each species.
 
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DeadFishFactory said:

Homework Statement


A 0.0450 M solution of para-aminobenzoic acid had an absorbance of 0.844 at 267 nm in a 1.00 cm cuvet, and an absorbance of 0.034 at 240 nm. A 0.0366 M solution of nicotinic acid had absorbances of 0.010 and 0.755 at 267 and 240 nm, respectively. A MIXTURE of PABA and nicotinic acid had absorbances of 0.552 and 0.403 at 267 and 240 nm, respectively. Calculate the concentration of PABA and nicotinic acid in the mixture.



Homework Equations


A = ebC

A = absorbance
b = path length
C = concentration
e = molar absorptivity


The Attempt at a Solution


I've tried, but I can't figure it out. If I try to use Beer's Law individually on the two absorbance values, then I get 2 concentration values for each species.

Try taking a ratio of the known concentrations at their respective wavelengths to solve for the unknown concentrations. Beer's law is a linear relationship in this case.
 
I'm still slightly confused on how that would look?

Are you saying we do:

A1/A2 = (b1C1e1)/(b2C2e2)?
 
From initial data calculate separately 4 values of molar absorptivity - for two substances and two wavelengths. Then you will have two equations in two unknowns for a mixture.

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