Finding n for Constant*s^n: Homework Help

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The problem involves determining the value of n in the expression constant * s^n, where s is defined as a function of time t through the equation s^3 = t. The context includes analyzing the relationship of this expression to the speed and force of a particle moving in a straight line.

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  • Participants discuss deriving expressions for speed and force based on the given relationship between displacement and time. There are attempts to integrate and differentiate to find n, with varying results and interpretations of the equations involved.

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Some participants express confidence in their calculations, while others question the correctness of their approaches. There is acknowledgment of differing values for n based on the context of speed and force, indicating ongoing exploration of the problem.

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Participants are navigating through the implications of using different forms of the displacement function and the associated derivatives, leading to potential confusion about the correct interpretation of n in relation to speed and force.

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Hey, I suspect that this is probably quite simple, but I'm a bit stuck on it, or the 2nd part at least.

Homework Statement



The displacement s of a particle moving in a straight line as a function of time t is given by s^3 = t. Find the value of n if at any time t:

constant * s^n

represents: (i) the speed of the particle; (ii) the force acting on the particle.

The Attempt at a Solution



For (i), I tried to derive a differential equation by writing:

ds/dt = k*s^n (where k is constant)
=> ds = k*t^(n/3) dt

By integrating both sides:
s = [k/((n/3)+1)] t^((n/3)+1) + c

I then hypothesised that we wanted ((n/3)+1) to be 1/3, because s=t^(1/3).
Hence, n = -2 is my answer. Is it right, or am I off-track?

For part (ii), I don't know. I know we can write force = mass * acceleration, hence F = m*s'' (s differentiated twice) but that doesn't seem to give me an equation I can solve. I know acceleration can be written in other ways, so should I write it as dv/dt or possibly v*dv/ds?

Thanks.
 
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As for the first answer, your approach should lead you to the correct answer, but isn't. Check your solution again.

A better solution would be to write a function like:

[tex] s = t^\frac{1}{3}[/tex]

and then differentiate it. The thing is, you won't have to deal with Differential Equations at all. You can differentiate it once and twice giving the answer to your questions.
 
Thanks, but using that method, I still get n = -2. Here's what I did:

Start with s=t^(1/3)
Differentiate: ds/dt = (1/3)t^(-2/3)

We want speed to be k*s^n and k*s^n = k*t^(n/3) because s=t^(1/3), hence:

k*t^(n/3) = (1/3)t^(-2/3)
=> So we have n/3 = -2/3 => n = -2.

I also tried differentiating a second time to get the second part as you suggested:

d2s/dt2 = (-2/9)t^(-5/3)

We want force (= mass * acceleration) to be k*s^n, hence:

k*s^n = k*t^(n/3) = (-2m/9)t^(-5/3)
=> So we have n/3 = -5/3 => n = -5.

Where am I going wrong?
 
As for the first question, n = -2 is the correct answer. I got confused thinking that v = kt^n rather than v = ks^n. Sorry 'bout that.

And yes, n = -5 is the right answer too.
 

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