Finding Notation for Left Invariant Vector Fields on Lie Groups

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The discussion revolves around the notation and concepts related to left invariant vector fields on Lie groups. Participants explore the definitions and properties of differential operators in the context of Lie groups and their embeddings in smooth manifolds.

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  • Dan expresses confusion regarding the notation for the differential operator \(d\) in the context of left invariant vector fields on Lie groups, questioning its definition in algebra.
  • Dan later clarifies that \(d\) is indeed a differential operator, but he is uncertain about the relationship between \(dL_g\) and \(X(g \cdot dx)\) in the definition of left invariant vector fields.
  • Another participant challenges Dan's assumption about embedding \(G\) in a smooth manifold \(M\), stating that \(G\) itself is a smooth manifold with its own differentiable structure.
  • This participant explains the concept of the exterior derivative and how it relates to the differential of a map between smooth manifolds, emphasizing that left translation maps are diffeomorphisms.
  • They elaborate on the condition for a vector field \(X\) to be left-invariant, stating that \(dL_g(X_h) = X_{gh}\) for all \(h \in G\), and discuss the correspondence between the tangent space at the identity and left-invariant vector fields.
  • Dan acknowledges the clarity provided by the explanation, indicating that it helped him understand the definition better.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants exhibit some disagreement regarding the embedding of \(G\) in a smooth manifold and the interpretation of the differential operator \(d\). While Dan initially struggles with these concepts, a later reply provides clarification, but no consensus is reached on all points discussed.

Contextual Notes

There are unresolved assumptions regarding the nature of the differential operator \(d\) and its application in the context of left invariant vector fields. The discussion also reflects varying interpretations of the embedding of Lie groups in smooth manifolds.

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I'm sure this is a trivial notation question. I just can't seem to find the notation in my texts.

Let [math]L_a(g) = ag~\forall a, g \in G[/math] where a is fixed in G and G is a Lie group. (This defines the left action of G on itself.)

A vector field X on a Lie group G is left invariant if
[math](dL_g)(X(x)) = X(L_g(x)) = X(gx)[/math]

I know various differential operators d from Differential Geometry, and I know d acting on two vectors in an affine space, but I can't find any definition of d in Algebra. It's got to be simpler than this.

-Dan

I just looked ahead in my notes. The next topic is a tangent space of G, so maybe d is a differential operation after all. In that case I don't know how to get [math](dL_g)(X(x)) = X(L_g(x))[/math].
 
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Okay, I did finally find this and the d is a differential operator.

Here's my problem in detail. Let G be a Lie group. Define [math]L_a(g): G \times G: g \mapsto a \cdot g,~\forall g \in G, \text{ for fixed } a \in G[/math].

Let G be embedded in a smooth manifold M. Then G inherits the differential structure of M. So we have a map [math]dL_a: G \to TG[/math] using this differential structure. In general [math]g \in G[/math] does not lie in TG (Unless perhaps we are taking the tangent space over the identity in G. Not sure on this point.)

Now, a vector field X over a Lie group G is left invariant if
[math](dL_g)X(x) = X(L_g(x)) = X(g \cdot x)[/math]

I would expect a relationship like [math](dL_g)X(x) = X(g \cdot dx)[/math]. Why is there no differential operation on the RHS of the left invariant definition?

-Dan
 
topsquark said:
Okay, I did finally find this and the d is a differential operator.

Here's my problem in detail. Let G be a Lie group. Define [math]L_a(g): G \times G: g \mapsto a \cdot g,~\forall g \in G, \text{ for fixed } a \in G[/math].

Let G be embedded in a smooth manifold M. Then G inherits the differential structure of M. So we have a map [math]dL_a: G \to TG[/math] using this differential structure. In general [math]g \in G[/math] does not lie in TG (Unless perhaps we are taking the tangent space over the identity in G. Not sure on this point.)

Now, a vector field X over a Lie group G is left invariant if
[math](dL_g)X(x) = X(L_g(x)) = X(g \cdot x)[/math]

I would expect a relationship like [math](dL_g)X(x) = X(g \cdot dx)[/math]. Why is there no differential operation on the RHS of the left invariant definition?

-Dan

Hi Dan,

I'm having some issues with the contents of your question. Why do you embed $G$ in a smooth manifold $M$? The group $G$ is itself a smooth manifold, so it also has a differentiable structure. Also, you're not viewing $d$ correctly. This $d$ is the exterior derivative. Let $f : M \to N$ be a differentiable map between smooth manifolds $M$ and $N$. Then for each $x\in M$, the differential of $f$ at $x$ is a map $df_x : T_x M \to T_{f(x)} N$ such that

$$df_x(\xi):= \frac{d}{dt}|_{t = 0} f(c(t))$$

whenever $\xi \in T_xM$ and $c : [0,1] \to M$ is a curve with $c(0) = x$ and $\dot{c}(0) = \xi$. The total differential of $f$ is a map $df : TM \to TN$ such that $df(x,\xi) := (f(x), df_x(\xi))$ for all $x\in M$ and for all $\xi\in T_xM$.

Since $G$ is a Lie group, the left translation maps $L_g : G \to G$ are diffeomorphisms. So given a vector field $X$ on $G$, the expressions $dL_g X$ makes sense as a vector fields on $G$. The field $X$ is left-invariant if $dL_g X = X$ for all $g\in G$. Let's make sense of this. Let $h\in G$. Then $X_h$ is a vector tangent to $h$ in $G$. Thus for fixed $g$, $dL_g(X_h)$ is a vector tangent to $L_g(h) = gh$ in $G$. So for the equation $dL_g X = X$ to make sense, we must have $dL_g(X_h) = X_{gh}$ for all $h\in G$. Another way of stating this is that $X$ is $L_g$-related to itself.

It's important to note that if $X$ is left-invariant on $G$, then $X$ is completely determined by $X_e$, where $e$ denotes the identity of $G$. For given $g\in G$,

$$ X_g = X_{ge} = dL_g(X_e).$$

Conversely, given a vector $Y_e\in T_eG$, we can form a left-invariant vector field $X$ on $G$ by setting $X_g := dL_g(Y_e)$ for all $g\in G$. By the chain rule, we have

$$ dL_g(X_h) = dL_g(dL_h(Y_e)) = d(L_g \circ L_h)(Y_e) = dL_{gh}(Y_e) = X_{gh}$$

for all $g, h\in G$. So indeed, $X$ is left-invariant. This gives a correspondence between the tangent space to the identity at $G$, $T_eG$, and the space of left-invariant vector fields on $G$, $L(G)$. This correspondence is actually an isomorphism of vector spaces.

Try as an exercise to find all left-invariant vector fields on $\Bbb R$.
 
Euge said:
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Let $h\in G$. Then $X_h$ is a vector tangent to $h$ in $G$. Thus for fixed $g$, $dL_g(X_h)$ is a vector tangent to $L_g(h) = gh$ in $G$. So for the equation $dL_g X = X$ to make sense, we must have $dL_g(X_h) = X_{gh}$ for all $h\in G$. Another way of stating this is that $X$ is $L_g$-related to itself.
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In amongst the other material (which organized the facts much better than my stumbling attempts), this statement was exactly what I needed to understand what is going on in the definition. Thank you!

-Dan
 

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