MHB Finding particular solution to recurrence relation

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The discussion revolves around finding particular solutions to recurrence relations, specifically the equation an+2 = -4an + 8n2n. The user starts by identifying the roots of the characteristic polynomial, leading to a general solution involving complex roots. The textbook suggests a particular solution of the form (An+B)2n, which confuses the user due to the overlap with the homogeneous solution. Clarification is provided that the proposed particular solution does not solve the homogeneous equation, allowing it to be valid. Ultimately, the user expresses understanding after receiving guidance on the topic.
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Hi,

I have a question about how to find the particular solutions when trying to solve recurrence relations. For example, trying to solve

an+2 = -4an + 8n2n ,

I begin with finding the roots in the characteristic polynomial associated with the homogeneous equation, so r1 = 2i and r2 = -2i.

Then, because the roots are complex, the general solution is

an(h) = 2n*(αcos(πn/2) + βsin(πn/2)).Now, my textbook suggests trying a function of the form

(An+B)2n

when trying to find the particual solution. I don't understand why and I have come across a couple of other examples which have made me equally confused as I am this time. Could anyone shed some light on the matter?
 
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vincentvance said:
Hi,

I have a question about how to find the particular solutions when trying to solve recurrence relations. For example, trying to solve

an+2 = -4an + 8n2n ,

I begin with finding the roots in the characteristic polynomial associated with the homogeneous equation, so r1 = 2i and r2 = -2i.

Then, because the roots are complex, the general solution is

an(h) = 2n*(αcos(πn/2) + βsin(πn/2)).Now, my textbook suggests trying a function of the form

(An+B)2n

when trying to find the particural solution. I don't understand why and I have come across a couple of other examples which have made me equally confused as I am this time. Could anyone shed some light on the matter?

The procedure to 'attack' this type of problem is illustrated in...

http://mathhelpboards.com/discrete-mathematics-set-theory-logic-15/difference-equation-tutorial-draft-part-ii-860.html#post4671

Using the 'useful table' You arrive to the following relation...

$\displaystyle \gamma_{n}= 8\ n\ 2^{n} \implies w_{n} = 8\ 2^{n}\ (\chi_{0} + \chi_{1}\ n)\ (1)$

Kind regards

$\chi$ $\sigma$
 
chisigma said:
The procedure to 'attack' this type of problem is illustrated in...

http://mathhelpboards.com/discrete-mathematics-set-theory-logic-15/difference-equation-tutorial-draft-part-ii-860.html#post4671

Using the 'useful table' You arrive to the following relation...

$\displaystyle \gamma_{n}= 8\ n\ 2^{n} \implies w_{n} = 8\ 2^{n}\ (\chi_{0} + \chi_{1}\ n)\ (1)$

Kind regards

$\chi$ $\sigma$

Thank you!

In the post you linked it says "Some caution is to be adopted using the table 2.1 because the $w_n$ are valid only if the sequences themselves aren’t solution of the homogeneous DE and if that is the case a different procedure must be adopted."

Isn't the sequence a solution to the homogeneous equation in this example because the general solution is a product with $2^n$
 
vincentvance said:
Thank you!

In the post you linked it says "Some caution is to be adopted using the table 2.1 because the $w_n$ are valid only if the sequences themselves aren’t solution of the homogeneous DE and if that is the case a different procedure must be adopted."

Isn't the sequence a solution to the homogeneous equation in this example because the general solution is a product with $2^n$

The homogeneous equation is...

$\displaystyle a_{n+2} + 4\ a_{n} = 0\ (1)$

... and its solution is...

$\displaystyle a_{n} = 2^{n}\ \{ c_{0}\ i^{n} + c_{1}\ (- i)^{n}\}\ (2)$

The particular solution we have found is...

$\displaystyle w_{n} = 8\ 2^{n}\ (\chi_{0} + \chi_{1}\ n)\ (3)$

... and (3) is not a solution of (1)...

Kind regards

$\chi$ $\sigma$
 
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chisigma said:
The homogeneous equation is...

$\displaystyle a_{n+2} + 4\ a_{n} = 0\ (1)$

... and its solution is...

$\displaystyle a_{n} = 2^{n}\ \{ c_{0}\ i^{n} + c_{1}\ (- i)^{n}\}\ (2)$

The particular solution we have found is...

$\displaystyle w_{n} = 8\ 2^{n}\ (\chi_{0} + \chi_{1}\ n)\ (3)$

... and (3) is not a solution of (1)...

Kind regards

$\chi$ $\sigma$

Oh, I actually think I get it now. Thank you for your patience!
 
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