Finding potential between identical spheres

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The problem involves calculating the electric potential between two oppositely charged identical insulating spheres, each with a specified diameter and charge, placed a certain distance apart. The focus is on determining the potential difference measured by a voltmeter connected between the nearest points on their surfaces.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory, Assumption checking, Mathematical reasoning

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • Participants discuss the individual potentials at points near the surfaces of the spheres and question the contributions from both charges. There is exploration of the correct distances to use in calculations and whether the potential difference could be zero.

Discussion Status

The discussion is ongoing, with participants attempting to clarify their calculations and the contributions from each sphere. Some guidance has been offered regarding the need to consider both charges when calculating potentials, but there is no explicit consensus on the correct approach or final values.

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Participants are navigating the complexities of electric potential calculations, including the distances involved and the contributions from both charges. There is an emphasis on ensuring that the calculations reflect the physical setup accurately, with some confusion noted regarding the interpretation of distances and potential differences.

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Homework Statement


Two oppositely charged identical insulating spheres, each 56.0cm in diameter and carrying a uniform charge of magnitude 165μC , are placed 1.20m apart center to center.
If a voltmeter is connected between the nearest points (a and b) on their surfaces, what will it read?
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Homework Equations


V=k((q1/r1)-q2/r2)

The Attempt at a Solution


At first I thought that the potential between the two would be zero because they are equal but opposite. However, that was incorrect. I have let r=0.6 and r=0.88 however, using both was still incorrect. I do not know where to go from here.
 
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Start by finding the individual potentials at points a and b near the surfaces of the spheres.
Show your work.
 
Va=k(q/r)=(8.99*109)((165*10-6)/.28)=5.298*106

The potential for Vb would be the same but opposite. Is this correct?
 
flip290 said:
Va=k(q/r)=(8.99*109)((165*10-6)/.28)=5.298*106

The potential for Vb would be the same but opposite. Is this correct?

What about the contribution of the field of the other sphere at a? Same goes for point b where the fields from both spheres contribute to the total.
 
This is where I am confused. Would you use the same equation but make r=1.20m?
 
flip290 said:
This is where I am confused. Would you use the same equation but make r=1.20m?

The distance is always from the center of the charge to the location in question.
 
So
Va=k(q/r)=(8.99*109)((165*10-6)/1.48)=1.002*106?
and the same for Vb?
 
flip290 said:
So
Va=k(q/r)=(8.99*109)((165*10-6)/1.48)=1.002*106?
and the same for Vb?

How did you arrive at the distance of 1.48m ? Also, there should be contributions from both charges.
 
The distance between the two is r=1.2m plus from the center of the sphere is 0.28m. Therefore the total distance would be 1.48m. If there are contributions from both charges am I not using the right equation?
 
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The distance between the spheres is specified center-to-center.

For a given location in space you need to find the contribution of both charges. That means applying your equation twice for each location, once for each charge that contributes.
 
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So would it be Va=(8.99*109)((165*10-6)/1.76) plus the contribution from Vb therefore the answer would be V=1.7*106V?
 
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flip290 said:
So would it be Va=(8.99*109)9((165*10-6)/0.88) plus the contribution from Vb therefore the answer would be V=3.37*106V?

I think you meant 0.28 rather than 0.88 in the above, as your result value looks okay.

That takes care of the potential at point a. As you said previously, the potential at b will be the same but with opposite sign. What then is the potential difference between the two points?

EDIT: I take it back, your result looks a bit low. Re-check your calculations.
 
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The difference would then be zero?
 
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flip290 said:
The difference would then be zero?

I just realized that your result for the potential at point a still looks a bit off (a bit low). Recheck your calculations. What are the individual contributions from the two charges at point a?

Regarding the difference value, if the potentials have opposite signs, how can the difference be zero?
 

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