Finding Slope of a Tangent Line to a Parabola

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The problem involves finding the slope of a tangent line to the parabola defined by the equation y=2x^2-4x+1 at the point (-1,7). The original poster attempts to derive the equation of the tangent line and equate it to the parabola's equation in the form ax^2+bx+c.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory, Mathematical reasoning, Problem interpretation

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • Participants discuss the process of equating the tangent line's equation to that of the parabola and express concerns about correctly identifying coefficients a, b, and c. Some participants suggest rewriting the equation to clarify the comparison to the standard form.

Discussion Status

The discussion is ongoing, with participants providing guidance on how to manipulate the equations to find the coefficients. There is acknowledgment of the challenges faced in the algebraic steps, and some participants express a desire to use differentiation to find the slope directly.

Contextual Notes

There is a mention of the original poster's struggle with algebraic manipulation and the implications of choosing different slopes for the tangent line. The discussion highlights the constraints of the problem, particularly in relation to the requirements of the homework.

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Homework Statement


I've got the equation of a parabola y=2x^2-4x+1 with point (-1,7) and a tangent line running through it the point. I'm supposed to find the equation of the line. Simultaneously solve this equation with that of the parabola, place the results in form ax^2+bx+c, and find the slope of the tangent line.


Homework Equations


y=2x^2-4x+1
y=m(x--1)+7
ax^2+bx+c

The Attempt at a Solution


I was supposed to find the equation of the line using the point slope equation and I did, I placed it above. The problem lies when I try to set the equations equal to each other m(x+1)+7=2x^2-4x+1and place the results in ax^2+bx+c form. I guessed that a=2 and it was correct. However b is not -4x-mx and c is not m-6
 
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It looks like you are on the right track, but have some trouble with your bookkeeping.

If you have m(x + 1) = mx + m = 2x² - 4x + 1, start by bringing everything to one side of the equals sign: 2x² - 4x - mx + 1 - m = 0.
Now carefully compare this to the given form, ax² + bx + c. Try rewriting the equation to get this: 2x² + (...)x + (...) = 0.
You will be able to read off b and c, but this time with the correct signs :)

(Also, don't forget, as I initially did, that it stays an equation -- after the rewrite there will be "= 0" on the right hand side).
 
I wish using a little differentiation were justified here. for the y=parabola,
d/dx of 2x^2-4x+1 is 4x-4.

Value of derivative when x=-1 becomes -8, so slope is -8 for the line.

Now we have both the (given) point, and the slope of the line.

I just do not see the less advanced algebra trick to solve the question.
 
symbolipoint said:
I wish using a little differentiation were justified here. for the y=parabola,
d/dx of 2x^2-4x+1 is 4x-4.

Value of derivative when x=-1 becomes -8, so slope is -8 for the line.

Now we have both the (given) point, and the slope of the line.

I just do not see the less advanced algebra trick to solve the question.

Since the line y=m(x+1)+7 passes through the point (-1,7) which we know is on the parabola, if we choose any real gradient other than the tangential gradient, it'll cut the parabola twice, while the tangent will cut the parabola once.
 

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