Finding the Equation of a Parabola Tangent: Using Discriminant Method

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The problem involves finding the equation of a parabola that is tangent to the line y = 4x - 7, with a specified y-intercept of -3 and an axis of symmetry at x = 1/2. The discussion centers around using the discriminant method to establish the relationship between the parabola and the tangent line.

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  • Exploratory, Conceptual clarification, Mathematical reasoning

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • Participants discuss the form of the parabola and the implications of the given y-intercept and axis of symmetry. There are attempts to derive the equation using the discriminant and reflections over the axis of symmetry. Some participants suggest using simultaneous equations to find points of intersection with the tangent line.

Discussion Status

The discussion is ongoing, with various approaches being explored. Some participants have offered guidance on how to relate the coefficients of the parabola to the known points and the tangent line, while others question the necessity of differentiation in this context.

Contextual Notes

There is a mention of the problem being at a precalculus level, suggesting that participants are considering methods that do not require calculus. The need for a single solution from the discriminant is emphasized, indicating a focus on the conditions for tangency.

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Homework Statement



The line y = 4x-7 is a tangent to a parabola that has a y-intercept of -3 and the line x=1/2 as its axis of symmetry. Find the equation of the parabola.

This is supposed to be done with regards to the discriminant.

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The Attempt at a Solution



y=4x-7
y-intercept = -7
x-intercept = 7/4
after drawing the graph, the parabola has to be concave up.

integrating... (i have no idea what else to do)
y=2x^2-7x+c
discriminant = 49-4*2c
= 49-8c
=0
8c=49
c=49/8

...:confused:
 
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skae said:
integrating... (i have no idea what else to do)
y=2x^2-7x+c
discriminant = 49-4*2c
= 49-8c
=0
8c=49
c=49/8

No, you don't want to do that.

The quadratic you're looking for is in the form of y = ax2 + bx + c. If (0, -3) is on the parabola, then you should know what c is.

Since (0, -3) is on the parabola and the axis is x = 1/2, "reflect" the point over the x-axis and you'll find another point on the parabola. Check if this point is also on the given tangent line. (It is.)

Plug this 2nd point into y = ax2 + bx + c. for x and y, and plug in the value you know for c, and now you have an equation in terms of a and b.

Find the derivative of y = ax2 + bx + c, and use it, with the 2nd point and the knowledge of the slope of the given tangent line, to find a 2nd equation in terms of a and b. Now you'll have 2 equations and 2 unknowns. Solve for a and b.
 
skae said:

Homework Statement



The line y = 4x-7 is a tangent to a parabola that has a y-intercept of -3 and the line x=1/2 as its axis of symmetry. Find the equation of the parabola.

This is supposed to be done with regards to the discriminant.

Homework Equations




The Attempt at a Solution



y=4x-7
y-intercept = -7
x-intercept = 7/4
after drawing the graph, the parabola has to be concave up.

integrating... (i have no idea what else to do)
y=2x^2-7x+c
discriminant = 49-4*2c
= 49-8c
=0
8c=49
c=49/8

...:confused:

The axis of symmetry x = 1/2 means the equation of the parabola is of the form

y = a(x - 1/2)2 + c

expand

y = ax2 - ax + a/4 + c

The y-intercept of -3 means (0,-3) is a point on the graph.
Substituting that point into the formula says c + a/4 = -3
That enables you to get c in terms of a, or a in terms of c, so your equation will have only one unknown in it.

Knowing that y = 4x - 7 is a tangent, you know that when solving simultaneously, you will get only one solution [that is where the discriminant comes in].

Do all that and you should find the equation of the parabola.
 
This being precalculus, there may be a way to do it without differentiation.

Let the parabola be y=ax2+bx+c
and you can write out the general formula that we use to solve quadratics.
The intercept and axis of symmetry allow you to determine some things about and between coefficients a, b, and c.

Next, solve simultaneously to find the points of intersection of the parabola with the line y=4x-7. There are 2 general points of intersection, but you are told for this line & parabola these coincide as one. This information tells you that there is another discriminant you can equate to zero (or otherwise) to give more relationships among the 3 coefficients. I think there will now be ample information to determine all three.

No calculus needed. :cool:

Not that I have anything against the calculus. :smile: :!) I love calculus!
 

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