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The discussion revolves around finding the area inside one loop of a four-leafed rose described by the polar equation $$r = \cos(2\theta)$$. Participants explore the integration process required to calculate this area, discussing the necessary limits and the formula to use.

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Main Points Raised

  • One participant expresses confusion about the process of finding the area and confirms the formula for area in polar coordinates as $$A = \int ^{\beta}_{\alpha} \frac{1}{2} [f(\theta)]^2 d\theta$$.
  • Another participant suggests that the first step involves solving for $$\theta$$ from the equation $$r = \cos(2\theta)$$, leading to $$\theta = \frac{\cos^{-1}(r)}{2}$$, but questions its utility.
  • A participant emphasizes the importance of identifying values of $$\theta$$ for which $$r=0$$ to determine the limits of integration, $$\alpha$$ and $$\beta$$.
  • One participant calculates the points where $$\cos(2\theta) = 0$$, finding $$\theta = \frac{\pi}{4}$$ and $$\theta = \frac{3\pi}{4}$$, and proposes the integral $$\frac{1}{2} \int^{\frac{3\pi}{4}}_{\frac{\pi}{4}} \cos^2(2\theta) \, d\theta$$.
  • Another participant confirms the integral setup and arrives at the result $$\frac{\pi}{8}$$, but receives feedback on the clarity of their mathematical notation.
  • A later reply presents an alternative approach, simplifying the process by focusing on the first point where $$\cos(\theta) = 0$$ to derive the same area result of $$\frac{\pi}{8}$$.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants generally agree on the method of finding the area and arrive at the same result of $$\frac{\pi}{8}$$, although there are discussions regarding the clarity and correctness of mathematical expressions used.

Contextual Notes

Some participants express uncertainty about the steps involved in solving for $$\theta$$ and the implications of their calculations, indicating a need for clearer mathematical communication.

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I know this is relatively easy but I'm just confused on the process...

Find the area inside one loop of a four leafed rose $$r = cos(2\theta)$$.

I know that the formula is $$A = \int ^{\beta}_{\alpha} \frac{1}{2} [f(\theta)]^2$$ right?

I'm just not sure what to plug in or solve for.
 
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So would the first step be to solve for $$\theta$$?

So:

$$r = cos(2\theta)$$

$$cos^{-1}(r) = cos^{-1}(cos(2\theta))$$

$$= cos^{-1}(r) = 2\theta$$

then $$\theta = \frac{cos^{-1}(r)}{2}$$ ? But how does that help me?
 
shamieh said:
I know this is relatively easy but I'm just confused on the process...

Find the area inside one loop of a four leafed rose $$r = cos(2\theta)$$.

I know that the formula is $$A = \int ^{\beta}_{\alpha} \frac{1}{2} [f(\theta)]^2\color{red}{d\theta}$$ right? Dont't forget the $\color{red}{d\theta}$!

I'm just not sure what to plug in or solve for.
It will help to have an idea of what the graph looks like.

[graph]lfg70xit5x[/graph] (click on it for an enlargement).

The reason it has loops is that there are some values of $\theta$ for which $r=0.$ Start by finding those values. That will tell you what to take for $\alpha$ and $\beta$.
 
I think I understand it now, can you verify if I have done this correctly?

So:

$$r = cos(2\theta)$$

I don't know what $$cos(2\theta)$$ is, but I do know what $$cos(\theta) = 0$$

Finding everywhere that $$cos = 0, $$

I found that $$cos = 0 @ \frac{\pi}{2}$$ and $$cos$$ is $$0 @ \frac{3\pi}{2}$$

But I need $$cos(2\theta)$$

$$\therefore$$ I can say: $$2\theta = \frac{\pi}{2} = \frac{\pi}{4} $$

similarly $$2\theta = \frac{3\pi}{2} = \frac{3\pi}{4}$$

Thus my integral is $$\frac{1}{2} \int^{\frac{3\pi}{4}}_{\frac{\pi}{4}} cos^2(2\theta) \, d\theta$$ and after skipping a few steps of taking the A.D. I obtained : $$\frac{\pi}{8}$$
 
shamieh said:
I think I understand it now, can you verify if I have done this correctly?

So:

$$r = cos(2\theta)$$

I don't know what $$cos(2\theta)$$ is, but I do know what $$cos(\theta) = 0$$

Finding everywhere that $$cos = 0, $$

I found that $$cos = 0 @ \frac{\pi}{2}$$ and $$cos$$ is $$0 @ \frac{3\pi}{2}$$

But I need $$cos(2\theta)$$

$$\therefore$$ I can say: $$\color{red}{2\theta = \frac{\pi}{2} = \frac{\pi}{4}} $$

similarly $$\color{red}{2\theta = \frac{3\pi}{2} = \frac{3\pi}{4}}$$

Thus my integral is $$\frac{1}{2} \int^{\frac{3\pi}{4}}_{\frac{\pi}{4}} cos^2(2\theta) \, d\theta$$ and after skipping a few steps of taking the A.D. I obtained : $$\frac{\pi}{8}$$
Your answer $\frac\pi8$ is correct. But your writing still shows some very bad habits. You can NOT say things like $\frac{\pi}{2} = \frac{\pi}{4}$ because it is blatantly untrue. You should only use the equals sign "=" to connect things that are equal to each other. What you should have written there is something like "$2\theta = \frac{\pi}{2}$ and therefore $\theta = \frac{\pi}{4}$".
 
Thanks for the help. Found another way to solve this.

Setting $$2\theta = \frac{\pi}{2}$$

Since we only need the first point at which $$\cos(\theta) = 0 $$

we can then find $$\theta = \frac{\pi}{4}$$

$$\therefore$$ 2 [ $$ \int ^{\frac{\pi}{4}}_0 \frac{1}{2} [r]^2 d\theta $$ ] $$= \frac{\pi}{8}$$
 

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