Finding the Center of Mass of a Plywood Sheet: A Scientific Approach

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Discussion Overview

The discussion revolves around determining the center of mass of a plywood sheet with a quadrant removed. Participants explore the mathematical approach to calculate the x and y coordinates of the center of gravity, considering uniform density and gravitational effects.

Discussion Character

  • Mathematical reasoning
  • Technical explanation
  • Homework-related

Main Points Raised

  • One participant states the coordinates of the center of mass for the smaller and larger rectangles, seeking assistance in finding the total center of mass.
  • Another participant introduces the concept of uniform mass density and defines the area of the sheet using a piecewise function.
  • Calculations for the area and mass are presented, leading to the formulation of moments about the x and y axes.
  • One participant claims to find the moments in the x and y directions as 80ρ and 112ρ, respectively.
  • Another participant agrees with the moment calculations and attempts to derive the center of mass coordinates based on these moments.
  • A participant suggests that the coordinates of the center of mass were initially reversed and corrects the moment about the x-axis, leading to a new proposed center of mass.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants generally agree on the calculations of the moments but there is disagreement regarding the correct coordinates of the center of mass, with corrections being made throughout the discussion.

Contextual Notes

Some assumptions regarding the uniformity of density and the definitions of the area and moments are present, but not all steps in the calculations are fully resolved or agreed upon.

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Dear Everybody,

Shown below is a 4.00-ft by 8.00-ft sheet of plywood with the upper left quadrant removed. Assume the plywood is uniform and determine the x and y coordinates of the center of gravity. Hint: The Earth's gravitational field is also uniform for the entire sheet of plywood.

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I know the center of mass of the smaller rectangle is at (2,1) and the larger rectangle is at (6,2). I know the density is twice the area of the small rectangle of wood. I need some help with the total center of mass of the object above.
 
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Let $\rho$ be the uniform mass density of the sheet and $A$ be the area, and so we know:

$$\rho=\frac{m}{A}\implies m=\rho A$$

Now, the find the area, we can define the height $h$ (along the $y$-axis) of the sheet using a piecewise defined function:

$$h(x)=\begin{cases}2, & 0\le x<4 \\[3pt] 4, & 4\le x\le8 \\ \end{cases}$$

Hence:

$$A=\int_0^8 h(x)\,dx=\int_0^4 2\,dx+\int_4^8 4\,dx=2(4-0)+4(8-4)=24$$

And so:

$$m=24\rho$$

Now we need our moments:

$$M_x=\rho\int_0^8 h^2(x)\,dx$$

$$M_y=\rho\int_0^8 xh(x)\,dx$$

What do you find for the moments?
 
For the moments in x direction: 80$\rho$ and for y direction 112$\rho$.
 
Cbarker1 said:
For the moments in x direction: 80$\rho$ and for y direction 112$\rho$.

Yes, I get the same. So now, the center of mass is:

$$\left(\overline{x},\overline{y}\right)=\left(\frac{M_y}{m},\frac{M_x}{m}\right)=\,?$$
 
(10/3,14/3)
 
Cbarker1 said:
(10/3,14/3)

You've got your coordinates reversed...you see $M_x$ is the moment about the $x$-axis and so it is used to find the $y$-coordinate, and likewise $M_y$ is the moment about the $y$-axis, and is used to find the $x$-coordinate.

I made an error in the moment about $x$...it should be:

$$M_x=\frac{\rho}{2}\int_0^8 h^2(x)\,dx$$

This results in the center of mass of:

$$\left(\overline{x},\overline{y}\right)=\left(\frac{14}{3},\frac{5}{3}\right)$$

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